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kapil
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join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

said by fAcEtIOUs:

How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
1. Class action lawsuits don't work that way.

2. Data traffic won't impact voice traffic, unless their network is horribly configured.

3. Even then, 911 calls have priority over regular voice traffic.

4. There is a lot of legal fine print in wireless agreements about how 911 on a wireless phone is not a fail-proof thing.

I suspect you know most if not all of the above. But let's not let facts get in the way of a religious argument.
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fAcEtIOUs
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said by kapil:

said by fAcEtIOUs:

How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
1. Class action lawsuits don't work that way.

2. Data traffic won't impact voice traffic, unless their network is horribly configured.

3. Even then, 911 calls have priority over regular voice traffic.

4. There is a lot of legal fine print in wireless agreements about how 911 on a wireless phone is not a fail-proof thing.

I suspect you know most if not all of the above. But let's not let facts get in the way of a religious argument.
And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
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said by fAcEtIOUs:

And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
You are right. And given the fact that AT&T, when presented with two options will always pick the wrong one, they may very well end up suing. Just like they pursued the Verizon coverage ads. However that, just like the Verizon matter, would be very ill advised. I'm no AT&T fan, but I sure hope they have someone in their marketing or PR department with enough common sense to not extend this matter past its internet-meme shelf life.
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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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said by fAcEtIOUs:

And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
and there it is in a nutshell folks - how things work in the U.S.

don't like what a customer says about your network - sue their @ss!

don't like a competitor offering a better product for a lower price - sue their @ss!

they don't have to be right, they don't even have to have a case; if you can't afford to fight it, you're toast!

justice ain't cheap in the U.S. - it's for those that can afford it.


NOCTech75
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join:2009-06-29
Marietta, GA
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·AT&T Southeast

said by nasadude:

said by fAcEtIOUs:

And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
and there it is in a nutshell folks - how things work in the U.S.

don't like what a customer says about your network - sue their @ss!
Huge difference between not liking what they say and the "customer" leading an effort to taking the network down.


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
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reply to kapil

said by kapil:

I'm no AT&T fan, but I sure hope they have someone in their marketing or PR department with enough common sense to not extend this matter past its internet-meme shelf life.
they don't... they like turning little flames into giant raging forest fires.

Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

reply to NOCTech75
"Huge difference between not liking what they say and the "customer" leading an effort to taking the network down."

But that begs the question: how COULD the customers take it down unless the owners had oversold the thing to begin with? If everyone who paid for service to the network decided to actually use that service at the same time and the network fails, I have to blame the owners and not the folks who chose to use what they paid for.



NOCTech75
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join:2009-06-29
Marietta, GA
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·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast

said by Desdinova:

"Huge difference between not liking what they say and the "customer" leading an effort to taking the network down."

But that begs the question: how COULD the customers take it down unless the owners had oversold the thing to begin with? If everyone who paid for service to the network decided to actually use that service at the same time and the network fails, I have to blame the owners and not the folks who chose to use what they paid for.
EVERY company oversells the network.

Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

I have no doubt that they do. I'm just suggesting that they need to take responsibility for that when it bites them in the ass.


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