 DaveDudeNo Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1 | reply to fifty nine
Re: Fiber optics are not cheap Cable is fiber to the node. How come they arent charging ? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| The majority of Verizon's setup costs are specific to your house. Cable has amortized their network mostly/completely by now and is one customer out of 250 is no longer on their node it's not such a huge deal. But if you sink several hundred dollars into a customer for the ONT, fiber, etc. then they defect, you've got a problem... |
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| People move. The house will already be wired. So what? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Verizon is apparently paranoid that they won't get the cost of the equipment amortized by the next person who moves in. It's a business decision that they chose to make. |
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DaveDudeNo Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1 Reviews:
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·ViaTalk
| said by iansltx:Verizon is apparently paranoid that they won't get the cost of the equipment amortized by the next person who moves in. It's a business decision that they chose to make. And like the leave tax in NJ, it had a wonderful effect. No one wants to move to NJ, because they leave, they get a penalty. Why would i sign up, if i have to pay a penalty if Verizon under-performs ?
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Easy: you assume that Verizon doesn't under-perform  |
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said by jjeffeory:People move. The house will already be wired. So what? Neighbor down the street from me sold his house in March or April and had FiOS. Renter comes in and wants to get FiOS, five customer support, a supervisor, and a truck roll later...it's determined that they can't use the FiOS that's already hooked up to the house and working.
So they went with Comcast. That's $$$ that VZ has lost. Have heard a few more stories similar to this but this is the first I've physically seen and heard. |
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said by DaveDude:Cable is fiber to the node. How come they arent charging ? Cable doesn't have an expensive ONT on your house. Besides, cable is at a marketing disadvantage to Verizon so they can't afford to lose customers. |
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said by jjeffeory:People move. The house will already be wired. So what? Not every new owner gets fios. One of my coworkers just moved into a house that has the ONT and everything and he got OOL and IO TV instead because he wanted to watch howard stern on demand. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to iansltx
Very simple.. they pull the ONT and use it at another home... I wasn't aware that they left the ONT once the service was discontinued anyway.
Cable always pulled the phone boxes on the house of a CDP install.. I know other Fiber providers that pull the equipment as well.. I would figure Verizon would do the same since the equipment is charged to the customer if removed. |
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Oh I understand, but chances are that they will eventually get that back over the life of a house. I've had the service and loved it, but this sucks. |
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 birdfeedrPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:5 | reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy:Very simple.. they pull the ONT and use it at another home... I wasn't aware that they left the ONT once the service was discontinued anyway. I think they leave it. That was the original incentive for them to put up fiber -- it's not copper, therefore not mandated to allow CLEC services.
If they pull the ONT, can I get ILEC DSL back in here? If I'm on fiber, nope. |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | reply to DaveDude
said by DaveDude:Cable is fiber to the node. How come they arent charging ? because they know cable cant offer the levels of service that fios can.
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| said by dvd536:said by DaveDude:Cable is fiber to the node. How come they arent charging ? because they know cable cant offer the levels of service that fios can. Like I said - marketing advantage. Neither fios nor cable are offering the highest level of service they can. |
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 VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | reply to dvd536
said by dvd536:said by DaveDude:Cable is fiber to the node. How come they arent charging ? because they know cable cant offer the levels of service that fios can. I had Comcast all of last year. If it meant a lower bill, I would switch and stay with them in a heartbeat
Their service may not be the best of the best but it more then satisfied my needs for speed and reliability. |
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said by iansltx:Verizon is apparently paranoid that they won't get the cost of the equipment amortized by the next person who moves in. It's a business decision that they chose to make. Verizon actually allows those who already have an ONT to sign up for new service with most of the new customer offers ($150 Visa or $30 for 6 months and 24 Month Price Guarantee) without a contract. |
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| Now this is fair and they should be touting this to remove any backlash. Hopefully it's true and they'll catch up in the marketing department. |
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DaveDudeNo Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1 Reviews:
·Vonage
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said by iansltx:Easy: you assume that Verizon doesn't under-perform My friends PPV, hasnt work consistently since he got it. Plus his channels sometimes fall off his account, he has called them at least twice a month since he switched. |
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