 DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
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3 edits | I still dont care! I stopped watching "live" tv years ago. Why would I want to spend 15min every hour watching commercials??!! Why would I want people constantly screaming at me to buy this and that car? WHY??????????!!!!!!!!!
I have been downloading every single thing ive ever wanted to watch to a file-server and watch it commercial free any time of the day or night as I please. I have total control of my entertainment and thats the way I plan on doing it for the rest of my life!
I have even taught those close to me to do the same. My mother can download all the tv shows she wants to watch and has OTA tv for her news.
I laff at people that would pay $100's for total lack of control of there entertainment. Ya sure, go get a DVR and pay for that too, but guess what? You STILL GET THE COMMERCIALS!!!!!! HAHAHAHA You still have a limited amount of storage space and your still a slave to what they want you to watch when they want you to watch it!
So until I can watch tv without commercials and pick any show I would possibly want to watch any possible time of the day, I say FU to the cable company's and satellite folks as-well.
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 en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | Re: I dont care still! TV, like Magazines, Newspapers are paid for by the advertisers.
The 'OnDemand' model isn't cost effective yet.
I have my inlaws on OTA HD (+70 channels including subs in L.A.) |
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nonymousPremium
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Glendale, AZ | reply to DaMaGeINC
So is this done legally?
Do you download high quality? |
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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to DaMaGeINC
said by DaMaGeINC:I stopped watching "live" tv years ago. Why would I want to spend 15min every hour watching commercials??!! Why would I want people constantly screaming at me to buy this and that car? WHY??????????!!!!!!!!! I have been downloading every single thing ive ever wanted to watch to a file-server and watch it commercial free any time of the day or night as I please. I have total control of my entertainment and thats the way I plan on doing it for the rest of my life! I have even taught those close to me to do the same. My mother can download all the tv shows she wants to watch and has OTA tv for her news. I laff at people that would pay $100's for total lack of control of there entertainment. Ya sure, go get a DVR and pay for that too, but guess what? You STILL GET THE COMMERCIALS!!!!!! HAHAHAHA You still have a limited amount of storage space and your still a slave to what they want you to watch when they want you to watch it! So until I can watch tv without commercials and pick any show I would possibly want to watch any possible time of the day, I say FU to the cable company's and satellite folks as-well. So you illegally download stuff. nice. So companies are suppsoe to provide you entertainment for FREE? I swear since when do people think everything is supposed to be welfare? |
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DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
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1 edit | BF69, Please dont start your morality BS with me. I dont buy anything from ad's anyway, so its not like they are going to make money off of me anyway.
You want to watch ad's and line their pockets with gold, be my guest.
Good night.
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DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
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2 edits | reply to nonymous
No, who cares.
and very high quality. |
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nonymousPremium
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said by DaMaGeINC:BF69, Please dont start your morality BS with me. I dont buy anything from ad's anyway, so its not like they are going to make money off of me anyway. You want to watch ad's and line their pockets with gold, be my guest. Good night. I get a picture of alone in basement in parents house.
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DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
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Greenville, SC
kudos:2 | Nope,
I live alone and have no money, so I do what I have to do to save money. |
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| So having no money justifies theft? You are why my costs are constantly going up. |
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| wait, you actually BELEIVE the BS that the media MAFIAA dishes out that theft causes higher prices? they're making fist fulls of money daily, look at how well the actors and executives are doing. theft of digital entertain is not the same as theft of a physical good. |
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DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
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said by IdiotH8RH8R :
So having no money justifies theft? You are why my costs are constantly going up.
Its your money, why pay someone for something you DO NOT WANT. I am not going to pay money to watch AD's and have limited control of my entertainment. So keep throwing your money away. We are the consumers with the money, they should listen to what we want and give us something that's worth our money. If they cant do that, then I will get it anyway I can.
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| said by DaMaGeINC:said by IdiotH8RH8R :
So having no money justifies theft? You are why my costs are constantly going up.
Its your money, why pay someone for something you DO NOT WANT. I am not going to pay money to watch AD's and have limited control of my entertainment. So keep throwing your money away. We are the consumers with the money, they should listen to what we want and give us something that's worth our money. If they cant do that, then I will get it anyway I can. It`s not theft. It`s copyright infringement. There`s a big difference. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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said by DaMaGeINC:Nope, I live alone and have no money, so I do what I have to do to save money. You live alone, and have no money, but yet you still want what everyone else has to go to work for and earn the money to "have"... GREAT attitude!
... it certainly makes the rest of us honest, hard working Americans feel better that we go to work every day, earn an honest living, CHOSE what we are going to spend our money on so we can "have".. and our bills go up because the slackers and self appointed people out there can simply "take" what they want and justify it because "everyone else is fools"...
Karma.. enjoy it! |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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You stopped being a "consumer" when you stopped spending your money.. Google is largely free, why don't you use it to look up some of these words you throw out there..
What you are, to be honest, is a thief.. don't try to justify it anyway to the rest of us because you won't chance our minds.. If you want to be a thief, then by all means, go for it.. don't try tellings the rest of us what's right or what's wrong..
If it's not "worth your money" then don't buy it.. but don't sit here trying to justify it to others at the same time as acceptable either... I'd tell you how I really feel, but the mods have a problem with me doing that. |
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DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
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Greenville, SC
kudos:2 | Your right! I am a thief. I copy 1's and 0's! Big whoop. Who cares.
When I need something, I buy it, but I would not buy something that I have no control of.
Would you buy a car that you could only drive from 9-5 and still have to buy the gas for it?
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DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
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Re: I still dont care! Oh and by the way. I steal the internet that I use to steal the 1's and 0's!!! |
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| said by DaMaGeINC:Oh and by the way. I steal the internet that I use to steal the 1's and 0's!!! The great thing is there will be more of this guy and less of you cable-tv subscribers in the coming years as cable-tv rates go skyward. What many don't understand is the lack of an evolution of the cable-tv business model into something more choice filled.. and a-la-carte packages is just the start of it.. the RIGHT to consume the programming as 1's and 0's is something from a tech standpoint is still within a massive walled garden. Just because you have 'digital cable-tv' doesn't mean the cable companies want you to "copy" the content and have ease of access to it. The cable companies (and now you can include the telcos in this logic sans qwest) follow the dictates of the entertainment industry who see content as a cash cow which will have to deal with the internet as a real threat to maintaining the status quo (yearly rate hikes, higher set-top rental fees, taxes & surcharges--aka franchise fees,etc, etc). If an evolution of the video industry doesn't bring video content prices down the way VOIP brought telco landline prices down, consumers will flip from one side of the argument to the other, much faster than they would have down the line. The handwriting is on the wall with internet data caps, higher internet pricing, and asymmetric broadband packages.. along with re-aligning of deployment/footprint geographies. No longer is 100% coverage with a fiber optic network or maxed out docsis 3 such an attractive idea to companies who are gouging the consumer for cable-tv serivce as the price of phone service keeps plummeting (unlimited cell phone service for $30-$50/month, and free google voip as examples). The only options left are to gouge cable-tv and then, by proxy internet access in any way they can to make up the lost revenue. Just understand, this is a neat balancing act-- because screw with the consumer too much, and these companies one and all risk losing the consumer altoggether for all 3 services.. or any which they subscribe to.
There is another aspect I wish to touch upon with repect to OWNERSHIP of this so-called content the cable-tv industry is selling/reselling. The fact is that most of this content is now in the hands of fewer and fewer corporate conglomerates. So, therefore we can be assured that what was a novel marvel of time wasting entertainment in the late 1970s which had very affordable rates ballooned into a multi billion dollar industry upon which more and more content becomes "MUST BUY" as opposed to "CONSUMER'S CHOICE" in a "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT" proposition. Many threads in BBR and elsewhere in the disussion of these issues keep coming back to the conflict of interest between these greedy coporatations and the consumer.
So, to summarize... the more these greedy coporations keep pushing to get their hands on more of YOUR money.. the further consumers become the enemy by hunting & pecking out the specific content they want to watch & taking back control of video in much the way content producers provided it decades ago and at similar cost structure *when the cable-tv industry was new*. When I say consumers are/will be doing this.. you may not consider your self one of these yet.. but down the line.. remember this thread/comment/post... and see where you are when cable-tv basic hits $50, $75, then $100+ for BASIC CHANNEL LINEUP as your total bottom line price (including all fees). |
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Re: I dont care still! said by sonicmerlin:said by DaMaGeINC:said by IdiotH8RH8R :
So having no money justifies theft? You are why my costs are constantly going up.
Its your money, why pay someone for something you DO NOT WANT. I am not going to pay money to watch AD's and have limited control of my entertainment. So keep throwing your money away. We are the consumers with the money, they should listen to what we want and give us something that's worth our money. If they cant do that, then I will get it anyway I can. It`s not theft. It`s copyright infringement. There`s a big difference. It's still immorally and illegally getting something for nothing. |
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said by DaMaGeINC:Your right! I am a thief. I copy 1's and 0's! Big whoop. Who cares. By your logic you could walk into a bank and steal all of the money there. After all it's just paper and not anything of value.
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When I need something, I buy it, but I would not buy something that I have no control of.
Would you buy a car that you could only drive from 9-5 and still have to buy the gas for it?
There are lots of things we buy that are subject to terms and conditions and sometimes limited use. I'm not pissed off I can't use my snow blower in summer or my lawn mower in winter. |
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Re: I still dont care! You know, if you don't like the status quo, you can always go ahead and form your own production company and make your own content.
Content costs money for a reason, and that reason is that it is expensive to produce, and the costs keep going up. In this economy a lot of content producers are making less money and some are operating at a loss or break even. It's a gamble, especially when people freely share your content without paying you for it. So they look to leverage their agreements to make up for the shortfall.
The alternative, of course, is a lot worse - these companies could go out of business or lay off employees putting many people out on the street. You think that the entertainment/TV/film/music industry is only the big actors, movie stars and wealthy executives... dead wrong. There are many, many, many regular folks - working class, middle class and even lower income folks working in the industry making an honest living, not to mention all of the support industries - catering, location and equipment rentals, porta-potty rentals etc.
A feature film or TV episode has hundreds of people working on it, and if you add up all the people who stand to gain from it it is easily in the thousands. In contrast a guy making videos for break.com or youtube just has maybe one or two guys and a cheap video camera. One is a profession, the other is a hobby. NO comparison between the two. |
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