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knightmb
Everybody Lies

join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN

reply to Romney2012

Re: U.S. uses resources efficiently with low waste ....

said by Romney2012:

Just like companies have become more efficient by using Just In Time inventory systems, the U.S. ISPs are using a bandwidth capacity sized to near term requirements.
I won't argue with your other points, but I will counter this one. I run two ISP here in this country and you can't buy bandwidth capacity on the same scale of a "Just in Time" inventory systems. What you buy is blocks of bandwidth that only certain companies will sell to you.

So if I have one site with 100 customers and on average they never use more than 8 Mbps/sec of bandwidth, I can't buy 8 or 10 megabits of bandwidth from the local big companies (AT&T for example). Instead, I have to buy large blocks and set up peering agreements to run AT&T traffic as well. So for example, I have a site just like the one in question sitting on a 1000 M/bps Fiber peer.

Sure, it's great to have that much bandwidth available to them, but they never ever use it. It's 100 grandmoms checking e-mail and dads playing fantasy football. It also cost a lot of money! I certainly wish that I could tell them, I only need this much bandwidth now, bill me for less and during peak times, I need more bandwidth, so bill me for more.

So is this the same as per your example, this is overbuilt with a gigabit of bandwidth when it will never be used but instead of the government forcing this, a private company is?
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jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

said by knightmb:

So is this the same as per your example, this is overbuilt with a gigabit of bandwidth when it will never be used but instead of the government forcing this, a private company is?
Sounds almost the same as the whole cable a-la-carta problems. In the end, when companies recombine and form much larger companies that control large portions of the needed resources they can then charge whatever they want and people have to pay it in order to use it. That's a major problem today: more and more industries are loosing smaller companies, combining into larger ones, and competition is drying up (they then claim competition is thriving when it's not).
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus

join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI

I agree. This ties into my previous point about global market dominance vs. local dominance. Consolidations are good for global strength, but bad for local competition. Today's companies are trying to dominate the US market, and working hard to isolate this market from the rest of the world. Today's company desires isolated product competition but global resources.

I don't think that is good for us.
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