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Re: to Karl said by Z80A:Stop it? This won't even be a dime face up on the highway. The corruption runs deeper and thicker than ever and unfortunately for all of us, the corrupt make the rules for themselves. The Golden Rule has existed for all known civilization. Those with the money rule. And that applied even in Communist countries. All that changes is that OCCASIONALLY the ones with the money switch hands - with some losing and others taking their place.
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| Yes, but remember the golden rule has consequences. Ancient Egypt, Rome, France, etc. The fundamental problem the US has today, is that the 85% of the wealth lies in the hands of 5% of the population. That's not sustainable. 98% of the political power lies in the hands of the corporation. Again, no sustainable. I for one, will celebrate the day we take away the rights of 'personhood' from corporations, and yes, that day is coming. The US has 2 possible outcomes. #1. We stabilize the wealth distribution, rebuilding the middle class, or #2. We self implode with a bloody revolution. In both cases, the trend of more and more wealth and power being consolidated into the hands of the corrupt fat cats cannot continue for much longer.
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| Wealth redistribution never works in the end. If the government keeps raising the responsibility of the provider (aka. the corporation and business owners) then the provider will stop providing at a higher level or reduce it's rate of providing. A bloody revolution would REALLY mess things up. It's usually a bad idea to kill those who provides the jobs. I'm not saying what telcos are doing here is right but I find it amusing that people think that biting the hand that feeds them will make things better. Look at what Hugo Chavez is doing to his currency and economy by demonizing the rich and nationalizing everything. The rich were that backbone of the economy. Now, I'm not rich but I know where my job comes from and I am not going to sit back and allow somebody else to poison the well that my family & I drink out of. |
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| So you're just going to sit and be herded and shaved like a good little sheep until the day you die? It's not a bad idea to remove 'those who provide the jobs' if those who provide the jobs are corrupt and doing more harm than good. The jobs will get better if the greed and corruption is removed.
When you have an abscessed tooth, the dentist cuts out the infection so that the rest of the tissue may heal. When you have a cancerous tumor, the tumor is removed or destroyed so that the remainder of the body may live.
The corporate big-wigs, board members, and major shareholders are the tumors. They need to be excised. THEY are poisoning your well and then tricking you into believing that someone else is responsible.
Wake up, Clownzilla.
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Wealth redistribution never works in the end. If the government keeps raising the responsibility of the provider (aka. the corporation and business owners) then the provider will stop providing at a higher level or reduce it's rate of providing. A bloody revolution would REALLY mess things up. It's usually a bad idea to kill those who provides the jobs. I'm not saying what telcos are doing here is right but I find it amusing that people think that biting the hand that feeds them will make things better. Look at what Hugo Chavez is doing to his currency and economy by demonizing the rich and nationalizing everything. The rich were that backbone of the economy. Now, I'm not rich but I know where my job comes from and I am not going to sit back and allow somebody else to poison the well that my family & I drink out of.
That`s not true at all. Every major industrialized country has some degree of wealth redistribution. When that redistribution is done effectively, to empower those less fortunate, like in the Scandinavian countries, it improves the standard of living for everyone.
Your comment about Hugo Chavez is a non sequitor. You clearly have no idea what you`re talking about. |
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Oh goodie, another thread derailed into yet another lame pseudo-intellectual socialist v. capitalist F-fest! |
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| The problem is, I don't like capitalism OR socialism. Extremes of any kind need to be removed. Moderation is necessary. Believe it or not, there is a middle ground, but everyone is so stuck in the 'us vs. them' mentality that they don't try to find it.
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