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Re: Throttling? It is that 5% of "bulimics" that pushed technology so that you are no longer on dial-up, running a 386 or have electric power.
We are willing to pay for what we use, we just have an issue with deceptive advertising. Maybe it is time for the government to do their job.
And yes, if a buffet advertises "all you can eat" and someone wants to eat 40 lbs of food, they should be able to. If they advertise 1 plate, or 2 lbs of food, whatever clearly defined, it is fair to enforce a limit.
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| said by WernerSchutz:And yes, if a buffet advertises "all you can eat" and someone wants to eat 40 lbs of food, they should be able to. I guarantee that the unaffected "all-you-can-eat" buffet patrons will have little sympathy for bulimics who believe they should be able to binge/purge all day just because "the dictionary says 'all' means *all*"
You've just placed yourself firmly within the irrelevant fringe.
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 RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY 1 edit | reply to WernerSchutz said by WernerSchutz:And yes, if a buffet advertises "all you can eat" and someone wants to eat 40 lbs of food, they should be able to. If they advertise 1 plate, or 2 lbs of food, whatever clearly defined, it is fair to enforce a limit. I can agree with this. The "All You Can Eat" Buffet near me, where I sometimes eat, has a set of rules on signs near the door which are repeated on the walls. These include the usual of "Eat what you put on your plate" (ie: Do not waste food) and has a Time Limit listed. These former give them the right to toss bulimics (who were mentioned up thread) due to Food Wasting as well as exceeding the eating time limit (they only really enforce the time limit when the restaurant is packed. |
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 | reply to amigo_boy Actually, I remember hearing a legal case about this very topic many years ago. An all-you-can-eat pizza place had a couple of patrons removed. They sued, company settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money. Restaurant nearly doubled their prices for the buffet.
The fact is, if you advertise unlimited, you flirt with legality. Most companies get away with it because people are too lazy to sue and it costs an arm and a leg. If an 'unlimited' case ever made it to court, the offending company WOULD lose. Just look at comcast removing the word 'unlimited' a while back. They did that to avoid getting the shit sued out of them. |
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| reply to RARPSL said by RARPSL:The "All You Can Eat" Buffet near me, where I sometimes eat, has a set of rules on signs near the door which are repeated on the walls. These include the usual of "Eat what you put on your plate" (ie: Do not waste food) and has a Time Limit listed. These former give them the right to toss bulimics (who were mentioned up thread) due to Food Wasting as well as exceeding the eating time limit (they only really enforce the time limit when the restaurant is packed. I don't know anyone (except a few activists here) who would say a group of bulimics are entitled to binge/purge at the all-you-can-eat buffet just because the buffet didn't qualify the word "all."
It's just common sense. Everyone knows "all" doesn't mean "all" in the literal sense. It's defined toward the 95% of patrons who understand the term within their own usage patterns.
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 Lazlow join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | Just for curiosity I did ask around today(buffet). Most people I talked to do think all means all, as long as one is not wasting the food(not eating what one took). |
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| said by Lazlow:Just for curiosity I did ask around today(buffet). Most people I talked to do think all means all, as long as one is not wasting the food(not eating what one took). Or, purging what they did eat. Or...
It always comes down to those commonly-understood exceptions which mean "all" isn't literal, and most of us know that without the provider being pedantic just to satisfy a few irrelevant customers.
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 Lazlow join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | I thought I was pretty clear but apparently not. Most people I talked to said that all means literally all. |
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 | reply to amigo_boy said by amigo_boy:said by RARPSL:The "All You Can Eat" Buffet near me, where I sometimes eat, has a set of rules on signs near the door which are repeated on the walls. These include the usual of "Eat what you put on your plate" (ie: Do not waste food) and has a Time Limit listed. These former give them the right to toss bulimics (who were mentioned up thread) due to Food Wasting as well as exceeding the eating time limit (they only really enforce the time limit when the restaurant is packed. I don't know anyone (except a few activists here) who would say a group of bulimics are entitled to binge/purge at the all-you-can-eat buffet just because the buffet didn't qualify the word "all." It's just common sense. Everyone knows "all" doesn't mean "all" in the literal sense. It's defined toward the 95% of patrons who understand the term within their own usage patterns. Mark No it`s not. You have no idea what you`re talking about. Average bandwidth usage grows over time. It`s not a few, small minority of users who brought AT&T`s network to its knees. It`s the fact that so many iPhone users actually used their data plans.
You can`t use an all-you-can-eat buffet example. People`s appetites don`t grow exponentially over time. The buffet has no way to augment its supply of food above and beyond what it normally does. Your argument is meaningless.
Your 5% number is completely arbitrary. You have no hard data to back it up. Ethically it`s also baseless. If you advertise unlimited, you cannot discriminate against those who you don`t think are `relevant`. That sort of discrimination is against the law. Whether it involves discriminating against race or gender, or discriminating against high bandwidth users or low bandwidth users, you just can`t do it *if you want to advertise unlimited*. |
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