 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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kudos:2 | Amazon What I don't understand is, how is Amazon able to stream newer movies and Netflix isn't? Netflix's instant viewing has a lot of movies, over 10,000 titles, but they are mostly older movies. Amazon, on the other hand, has movies like The Hangover, Star Trek, and Terminator Salvation, on instant viewing.
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1 edit | said by Rob:Amazon, on the other hand, has movies like The Hangover, Star Trek, and Terminator Salvation, on instant viewing. But they're $14.99 to stream! Amazon doesn't have an all-u-can-eat model like Netflix do they?
EDIT: Just saw they have a $2.99 rental, my bad. |
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ecoPremium
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Wilmington, DE
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Because Amazon's streaming service is pay per stream meaning you pay individually for each movie you stream, just like VOD from your cable company or rentals on the iTunes store.
Netflix gives you unlimited steaming for a flat fee with all but their most limited monthy price tier. I pay only $8.99 with my Netflix account and get unlimited streaming of movies and TV shows. I've never even once had a DVD or blu-ray mailed to me since I've been a member, all I use is the streaming. In fact, the Tv I just bought I got specifically because it has Netflix streaming built right into it. |
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RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | reply to jester121
said by jester121:said by Rob:Amazon, on the other hand, has movies like The Hangover, Star Trek, and Terminator Salvation, on instant viewing. But they're $14.99 to stream! Amazon doesn't have an all-u-can-eat model like Netflix do they? EDIT: Just saw they have a $2.99 rental, my bad. Yea, 14.99 to own I think. $2.99 to rent.
Netflix could do something where you don't won't get any DVDs in the mail, but you can get 5 movies per month streamed, latest titles. I know some people would go with that.
I'm actually considering cancelling Netflix. We now have a whole lot of redbox's in my area, plus I have Amazon on my roku, I don't even need Netflix.
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jester121Premium
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| I wouldn't be opposed to the $14.99 to own some movie, but I need to research the DRM involved. For that price I want to be able to watch it on my PC, streaming to my TV, or take it on a trip with my Ipod or Zune.
And something tells me that isn't something the studios would be supporting in their current mindset. |
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jester121Premium
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Lake Zurich, IL | reply to eco
Isn't Netflix streaming only old releases though? Last time I checked them out there were no new releases. |
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kudos:1 | Netflix wants to change that stream newer movies too
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ecoPremium
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Wilmington, DE | reply to jester121
For the most part. I'd gladly pay a bit more for new releases too which is part of the issue being addressed in the tech dirt article: because I don't have legitimate access to those new releases, I get them via other means that deny the studios ANY form of revenue.
They still seem to think that because I can't get access to the content the way I want it I'm just going give in and get it how they want me to get it. Instead, I'm just going to steal it. This is the way a lot of people think and the bone headed studio execs don't seem to understand this fact. |
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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to jester121
said by jester121:said by Rob:Amazon, on the other hand, has movies like The Hangover, Star Trek, and Terminator Salvation, on instant viewing. But they're $14.99 to stream! Amazon doesn't have an all-u-can-eat model like Netflix do they? EDIT: Just saw they have a $2.99 rental, my bad. You still have to wait until 30 days after the DVD comes out which is BS. Listen Hollywood. I'm not going to buy the DVD if I'm interested in renting. I'll wait the 30 days. Or maybe I'll just get tired of waiting and torrent it. Is that better?
Remember guys these are the same idiots that tried to kill the VCR because it was going to kill their business model. Of course as well all know it did just the opposite. Of course if you go way back they thought TV was bad too. Every new medium that they though was hurtful to thier business they fought and every single time that thing they fought actually helps them earn billions more in revenues. Why they can't learn that lesson from history I'm not quite sure? |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to eco
said by eco:Because Amazon's streaming service is pay per stream meaning you pay individually for each movie you stream, just like VOD from your cable company or rentals on the iTunes store. Netflix gives you unlimited steaming for a flat fee with all but their most limited monthy price tier. I pay only $8.99 with my Netflix account and get unlimited streaming of movies and TV shows. I've never even once had a DVD or blu-ray mailed to me since I've been a member, all I use is the streaming. In fact, the Tv I just bought I got specifically because it has Netflix streaming built right into it. Amazon has many more newer movies than Netflix. Anything that has been out on DVD for less than 6 months won't be on Netflix strteaming. Which make Netflix less than useless. Bad enough I have to wait an extra 30 days to watch it through Amazon. I'm not waiting another half a year to watch it on Netflix. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to eco
said by eco:For the most part. I'd gladly pay a bit more for new releases too which is part of the issue being addressed in the tech dirt article: because I don't have legitimate access to those new releases, I get them via other means that deny the studios ANY form of revenue. They still seem to think that because I can't get access to the content the way I want it I'm just going give in and get it how they want me to get it. Instead, I'm just going to steal it. This is the way a lot of people think and the bone headed studio execs don't seem to understand this fact. If a bank doesn't give me a loan, rob it. This will teach banks to give me loans. Sound logical to you? |
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ecoPremium
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Wilmington, DE | reply to BF69
You seem to be missing the point of Netflix streaming vs. Amazon. Netflix is all you can eat so I can watch as many movies as I want for a flat fee whereas Amazon charges per movie just like you'd get your local blockbuster or redbox. |
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ecoPremium
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Wilmington, DE | reply to BF69
That's a ludicrous analogy and you know it. |
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| said by eco:That's a ludicrous analogy and you know it. No it's not. They have a product you want and you are not willing to meet their terms so you steal it? That my friend is a ludicrous statement.
The system is changing. Eventually, steaming will be more popular than actually playing a physical DVD. The delivery method for all these things will progress.
I personally do not want to ever buy another physical DVD / BluRay again. I want it as a digital file that can be stored on my media server and played on any TV or Device of my choosing. Renting is good for some, but some I want to purchase and I want it at a price that is reasonable and considerably cheaper than a physical Disc and $14.99 is not it.
So it is OK for me to "borrow" a disc and rip it to my server or get a bootlegged copy through download or media because they are not currently meeting my needs? No, its not. I just need to be patient for them to provide me THEIR material in a way I want at a price point I am willing to pay.
I think what will eventually happen to music and movies are those at the core of making it will distribute it themselves. The electronic distribution channel is easy enough and the internet is vast enough that it will allow them to manage their own content and collect their own paychecks for doing such. |
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Those words have truth to them. How many times can you watch the same movie? And if you do buy it, they release the Uncut version, the Director's Cut, the Extended, Uncut, Director's Cut. The Extended, Director's Cut in BluRay. The Collector's Edition in BluRay....
No. I realized that there is no return value purchasing the movie when you now can turn on a Netflix-enabled device (PS3, Xbox, BluRay, Roku,...) and see that entire library you have, mirrored on Netflix.
Those VHS tapes are where? Those DVDs are soon to be where? And BluRay...
but alot of what we aren't seeing are the studios wanting more money. Take a look at the Sony store of titles that you might not see on the Xbox Live store. Or that I've been waiting (VERY LONG WAIT) for Inglorious Basterds and had it in the queue since October! (yes, Dec release but still I had it there early).
If netflix doens't get some pull in titles (I can live with 14 days after DVD release but more than 30 days and I lose interest or as friends do, watch it elsewhere, likely on someone else's server or burned disc).
I wonder why Hollywood hasn't sucked up places like Netflix, Redbox and Gamefly. Then they would have new distribution model and control.
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Core0000Premium
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Somerset, KY | reply to BF69
Good Point. |
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I buy physicla things because I want to own them as that.I am not into buying streaming medai files and building a media library.I own a ton of physical things.books,vinyl,cd,dvd |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN
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said by eco:You seem to be missing the point of Netflix streaming vs. Amazon. Netflix is all you can eat so I can watch as many movies as I want for a flat fee whereas Amazon charges per movie just like you'd get your local blockbuster or redbox. Sure and the all you can eat buffet is a better bargin as long as you like what they are serving.
If gave you a choice of 2 meals A) you're favorite dish( no 2nd's ) $12 B) a buffet for varius kind of animal feces for $1 and it's all yu can eat. Which are you going to take?
Amazon may be the same price as Blockbuster or redbox, but I don't have to get out and I don't have to return the movie. By the way every now and then Amzon has discounted rentals.
here's crapload for $2.99. I'm renting Star Trek TONIGHT. They even have a few for 99 cents.
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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the entertainment industry likes to try and kill anything new, and a big thing is that as we progress into being greatly connected people want to watch their media on multiple devices when they want and where they want. the MAFIAA doesnt like this because for that sort of accessibility they loose what they crave most, Exclusive control.
to the recording and movie industries loss of exclusive control is more frighting to them then to a banker loosing his bonus and/or golden parachute.
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I'd advise you to think twice---- The Netflix catalog is deep, while Redbox, yes, it has new releases, but the catalog is shallow. I consider the two complimentary services, in many ways.
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