AT&T Joins Verizon, Admits Landline Is Dead > Not sure why it took them so long

Not sure why it took them so long

Hmm, the landline is not dead, per se. It is HOW the landline is being delivered that is dying a painful death.

I have a landline at home and guess who provides it? Comcast, a cable company.

So, where as Comcast and other cable companies successfully got into Verizon and AT&T's asses by delivering telephone services just as well, if not better than the telcos, telcos will have to find their way into the cable markets and deliver just as well, if not better than the cable companies.
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reply to danclan
The bean counters probably finally figured out that if they eliminate POTS, they can get people to pay more for VoIP and/or cell phone service. Besides that, it would also eliminate FCC regulatory compliance issues that are tied to POTS. Less regulation = less oversight = more profits?

reply to fatmanskinny
Landline is a landline, telephony line is a telephone line.

VoIP isn't the new "landline" it is the alternative to it.

There are still many legacy apps that require a traditional POTS line. Cheaper credit card terminals, telehealth vitals monitoring, etc. Sometimes T38 protocol enabled on a softswitch provider isn't enough to make it work.

Landlines are still relevant. It's just that telcos don't wish to maintain a product that isn't netting them 300% profit.

reply to danclan
I think the billions and billions it would cost might be why Verizon stopped running Fiber to the home....

Verizon now runs Coaxial to the home just as Comcast does....

take notice their commericals dont broadcast fiber to the home anymore because there isn't a need to take it that far....

you would still need to convert to coax one way or the other

The problem was that of the signal strength was far too strong causing the tuners in the boxes to tile...

everyone wants more and more signal... but there is a threshold of -10 to +10 dbmv.... if you exceed this either way the picture quaility falls

Where did you get the idea that Verizon FIOS is using a coaxial drop vs a fiber drop? Inside wiring AFAIK has always connected to the existing coaxial when possible or new coaxial is run inside the premises for their television product.

reply to danclan
landline is not dead.screw them.we use landline at my work where the phone system has a huge box and goes to a bunch of lines.how many phones we have is around a dozen or maybe 15.

reply to flyers

said by flyers :

I think the billions and billions it would cost might be why Verizon stopped running Fiber to the home....

Verizon now runs Coaxial to the home just as Comcast does....

take notice their commericals dont broadcast fiber to the home anymore because there isn't a need to take it that far....

you would still need to convert to coax one way or the other

The problem was that of the signal strength was far too strong causing the tuners in the boxes to tile...

everyone wants more and more signal... but there is a threshold of -10 to +10 dbmv.... if you exceed this either way the picture quaility falls

reply to Network Guy

reply to Network Guy
High regulatory fees, local taxes, FCC subscriber line charges and other municipal phantom charges is what's killing the landline. IP telephony is not regulated and although not perfect and still riddled with packet losses and bad quality from time to time, it is favored because you pay exactly what you were quoted.

The telcos still use copper lines for transports and DSL. Dry Loop DSL has temporarily saved the landline albiet at a higher price, but it will take another decade for the PSTN technology to go defunct.

It is baffling as to why the telcos have not lobbied to drop all these regulated charges. I would think the regulators would be worried to lose the "profits" these fees bring them and allow the newer technology to settle in.

If I were a fat assed, bureaucratic pot bellied regulator, I would be relaxing these fees, maybe even exempting them so not to lose my cushy gov position in my red tape mandated job! It will take them years to tap into IP telephony and try to regulate it.

reply to Network Guy

Re: Not sure why it took them so long

reply to flyers
That's interesting! I have uverse and am not using any coax. Everything in the house is connected with cat5 wire.

reply to Network Guy
Fax should be dead too.
No need T38

I'm surprised the way fax hangs on, yet the fax machine in my office runs all day with clients sending in orders.