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1 edit | Everything is the ISPs' fault. You knew that, right? Of course, at the same time that Bono is claiming that ISPs are making scads of money from piracy (Oh, really? Show me the money, please!), the pirates are claiming that ISPs are making tons of money by not allowing pirates to use infinite amounts of bandwidth.
And to top it all off, DSL Reports blames ISPs for everything. Death, taxes, scurvy, and bad breath are all really caused by ISPs. Or so you'd think, reading the "news" stories on DSL Reports.
When I went into the business of being an ISP, I thought that people would appreciate the good I did for my customers and for the community. And, in fact, my customers generally do appreciate me (except for the would-be bandwidth hogs and abusers). But you wouldn't know it from what you see in the press, or on this site's front page.
Here's a novel idea: WHY NOT BLAME THE PIRATES FOR PIRACY, AND ARREST THEM?? | |
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| said by SuperWISP:Here's a novel idea: WHY NOT BLAME THE PIRATES FOR PIRACY, AND ARREST THEM?? Here's an answer: Because there are WAY too many pirates. Surveys show over and over that an average of 25 to 30% no longer buy music, but pirate it. This is of course assuming that the other 70% did not lie, or was too scared to admit it. The RIAA says the number is 95%, but that just seems a little TOO unreal.
Say only HALF of the U.S. actually buys music. We can safely assume kids under 12 probably won't, and elderly above 65 will probably only buy a tiny fraction of music, and probably not pirate. Half the U.S. is 150 million people, 30% of that, or lets take one-third to make it easy for calculating purposes, is 50 million.
And no, I would not be surprised that there ARE 50 million people in the United States who pirate music, movies or software, even if it is only once or twice a year. And I think I am not even counting those who will make a CD copy for a friend of a completely legally bought CD.
We have 15 Million illegals in this country who probably broke more laws by simply being in this country and we can't seem to round them all up.
How on earth would you propose to arrest 50 million people, and who would pay for it all?
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I have an even better idea !
How about not calling any of your customers "hogs" for using a service you charge them for?
(To be quite honest, I feel the bigger "hog" in that case would be you) | | |
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Willseyville, NY | reply to maartena
said by maartena:said by SuperWISP:Here's a novel idea: WHY NOT BLAME THE PIRATES FOR PIRACY, AND ARREST THEM?? Here's an answer: Because there are WAY too many pirates. Surveys show over and over that an average of 25 to 30% no longer buy music, but pirate it. This is of course assuming that the other 70% did not lie, or was too scared to admit it. The RIAA says the number is 95%, but that just seems a little TOO unreal. Say only HALF of the U.S. actually buys music. We can safely assume kids under 12 probably won't, and elderly above 65 will probably only buy a tiny fraction of music, and probably not pirate. Half the U.S. is 150 million people, 30% of that, or lets take one-third to make it easy for calculating purposes, is 50 million. And no, I would not be surprised that there ARE 50 million people in the United States who pirate music, movies or software, even if it is only once or twice a year. And I think I am not even counting those who will make a CD copy for a friend of a completely legally bought CD. We have 15 Million illegals in this country who probably broke more laws by simply being in this country and we can't seem to round them all up. How on earth would you propose to arrest 50 million people, and who would pay for it all? And as I've said before, if you've got a law that has you thinking that you need to arrest 30% of the population for breaking that law - I think you have to seriously consider if it's a bad law. Because it sounds like society has decided it isn't going to follow that law any more, whether it's right or wrong probably doesn't matter, the social contract is starting to change.
I'm thinking of sea change events like the turn against smoking (still legal, but try it in many public places etc), various civil rights movements, heck, the changing of what in a movie warrants an R rating... The laws against sodomy or driving a car through a town without a person walking in front waving flags. Either the laws are slowly changed, or they stop being enforced.
Heck, what about speeding? You're more likely to get caught speeding than pirating, but
a) Speeding is generally not seen as "bad"
b) people make a lot of money selling to a subset of the population to beat the rap (radar detectors etc)
c) Fines etc aren't stopping many speeders. The speed limit got raised again above 55...
You can have all the laws you want, but in the end, a large portion of the population has to agree to follow the laws or you've got basically nothing.
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Re: Everything is the ISPs' fault. You knew that, right? said by DataRiker:How about not calling any of your customers "hogs" for using a service you charge them for? I will, and deserve to, call anyone who tries to take more than he or she pays for a "hog." And so should you.
Bandwidth isn't free; in fact, it's quite expensive. No one has the right to take it without paying, any more than he or she has the right to take an artist's work without paying.
What's more, as a law abiding citizen, I am bothered quite a bit by the fact that my network is likely being used for criminal activity. I'm not a cop, but I will cooperate with law enforcement if it presents me with a legal order to help stop such activity. | |
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| Takes more than he or she pays for?
Let me guess, you decide this arbitrary figure, right?
You represent the epitome of corporate culture and greed. You even assume your customers are criminals if they should dare use the connection they paid for.
If you can't sustain your business model get out the way and let somebody else do it. | |
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