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bbwithdrawls

join:2008-08-30
Vanleer, TN

satellite wan possible

I heard several times that you can use a 2 way satellite system and set it up at one location with broadband and bounce it off a satellite to a rural area that has nothing thereby creating a wan connection , no FAP because you own the connection , anyone knowledgeable in this area and is it legal??i saw where cisco has some equipment to do this with modular antennas

anyone have any insight to this ??

thanks in advance



grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY

Let me get this straight. You want to subscribe to a broadband account from a terrestrial provider who has no throughput restrictions (FAP). Then you want to feed it to your own 2-way satellite hub equipment, thereby establishing your own satellite mini-WAN. Is that pretty close?

I don't know who you've been talking to, but did any of them happen to understand how much this little pipe dream might cost?

//greg//
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tobicat
Premium
join:2005-04-18
Tombstone, AZ

Na Greg I read it that he wants to bounce it off of the satellite similar to moon bounce. Probably need about 10,000 watts of radiated power for the up link and god knows how much gain on the antennas for the downlink. It would be legal if you have an amateur license and use one of the GHz amateur bands. Provided it did not swamp out the satellites normal transponders. If it did you are talking jail time.

Hey bbwithdrawls give me a link to that cisco stuff I wanta see it. If you are talking about actually renting time on the satellite you are looking at a minimum of this plus install and equipment. Plus read the limitations.

iDirect Shared Bandwidth Service Plans for stationary systems on AMC-4 @ 101W

• 1024/128 kbps - $149.00 per mo. 60:1 contention
• 2056/768 kbps - $249.00 per mo. 60:1 contention
• 2056/768 kbps - $599.00 per mo. 25:1 contention
• 2056/768 kbps - $995.00 per mo. 15:1 contention
• 2056/768 kbps - $50.00 per DAY - On Demand 10:1 contention (CIR - $5.00 per Kb)

• 2056/2056 kbps - $250.00 per DAY - On Demand 10:1 contention (CIR - $5.00 per Kb)

No bandwidth limitation (FAP) on this service; however, we do not permit p2p, web hosting, mail servers and other very high bandwidth usage.

We can obtain lower ratios at higher prices based on customer needs.
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bbwithdrawls

join:2008-08-30
Vanleer, TN
reply to bbwithdrawls

tobicat , can you give me a # , Id like to speak with you about this

»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···f6f.html

Im looking for an out of the box solution to for broadband to an rural area , I have a broadband connection i can use , just looking to get it to an rural location , any suggestions , air card out , no cable , dsl,

T1 is 500-700 mth



dbirdman
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
usa
kudos:5

The Cisco solution is simply another satellite link like Hughes, iDirect, etc. They are using Gilat (like Starband).

The cost to duplicate a T-1's symmetrical 1536/1536 bandwidth would probably be at least twice the cost of the T-1 and the latency would make it seem a lot slower.

My iDirect connection is 768/1524 50:1 (actual speeds typical 400/1500) no FAP for $389 per month.
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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
reply to bbwithdrawls

said by bbwithdrawls:

T1 is 500-700 mth
If that's for T1 at your rural location, it is a cheaper solution than hubbing a terrestrial broadband into an over-the-satellite WAN

//greg//
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Stunata

join:2010-02-27
reply to bbwithdrawls

Many of the rural mountain communities around here have put up mountain top wifi repeaters with solar panels. These are simply standard off the shelf wifi equipment with high gain antennas. One antenna is pointed down in the valley getting the signal from a source. The other is pointed up into the mountains to serve a small group of homes.

You can actually link several of these together to get the signal where you want it.

You just need to find the cheap or free locations at the top of mountains/hills where you can locate your equipment.