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tomz17

join:2004-01-09
Newark, NJ

reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: Verizon is killing what (little) value for money there is

said by fAcEtIOUs:

You can now buy an unsubsidized smartphone like the Nexus One; use WiFi for almost all data needs; and get a pay as you go plan from the cell company for voice.
... except that carriers have wised up to this.

Verizon will require a data plan for any smartphone (they know which ones are smart phones based on ESN). There is no "I will use only wifi, and pay for my 3g data a-la carte option"

Even AT&T now supposedly uses the IMEI to FORCE data plans onto customers!

Furthermore, there is no low-cost pay-as-you-go data plan in the US. The cheapest for GSM is AT&T's $5 for 1 megabyte, or $19.99 for 100 megabytes. Their prepaid voice rates are pretty ludicrous, though! The cheapest for CDMA is probably pageplus, with their 20 or 50 megs of included data.


Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
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said by tomz17:

except that carriers have wised up to this.

Verizon will require a data plan for any smartphone (they know which ones are smart phones based on ESN). There is no "I will use only wifi, and pay for my 3g data a-la carte option"

Even AT&T now supposedly uses the IMEI to FORCE data plans onto customers!

This is the part the really pisses me off. Subsidized phones (where they give you a discount for signing a contract) requiring a data plan if its a smart phone, ok. It's just their way of guaranteeing a return on the discount. Still a bit of a scam, but I'm ok with it.

But if I bring a paid-in-full phone in for activation, they STILL force a data plan when I don't want/need one. That to me is a matter the FCC needs to take up.

Though as proven with the phantom data fee, the FCC is toothless.
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fAcEtIOUs
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said by tomz17:

Furthermore, there is no low-cost pay-as-you-go data plan in the US.
»www.boostmobile.com/


jonnyz
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reply to Camelot One
You can still get around this with ATT in contract or on Pay As You Go (I have done both):

1. Bring an old $20 unlocked GSM non-smartphone to them, get a contract with non-smartphone data, and swap the SIM into your unlocked GSM smartphone of choice.
2. Buy a GoPhone plan with the crappiest phone possible and swap the SIM into your GSM smartphone of choice.

And I highly doubt they come after users via IMEI for data plans. My Nokia E51 has never needed a data package - I use WiFi for all my data - not to mention the IMEI changes during unlocking in many GSM phones.
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tomz17

join:2004-01-09
Newark, NJ

reply to fAcEtIOUs

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by tomz17:

Furthermore, there is no low-cost pay-as-you-go data plan in the US.
»www.boostmobile.com/
Is stand corrected, but unlimited iden... no thanks... if you want to go that route, then you should also consider the free QNC on pageplus!

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