Will You Need A Second Mortgage To Pay Your Verizon LTE Bill? > Verizon is killing what (little) value for money there is

reply to openbox9

Re: Verizon is killing what (little) value for money there is

No, it's like saying buy a golf cart if you're only interested in playing golf. If you want to drive on the roadways, you buy a car and pay accordingly.

No, it's like saying "If you buy a car, and dare take it out of the driveway, we're converting the roads you need to drive on to tollways."
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

But if you aren't going to use the roadways, you have no need for a car, and therefore won't pay any tolls.

If you aren't going to use the "smart" part of your phone, then save yourself some money and don't purchase a smartphone. Seems fairly straightforward to me.

Smartphones have more uses then just phone calls! They are little computers. Many people for example have used the smartphones for phones, but then used WiFi for internet access on same phone.

Basically, Verizon, and others, are looking to penalize you for buying what you want.

Look at it this way: You buy a new car, which you like and has the performance you want, but then, surprise, you're required to buy XM satellite radio or the car won't work. (IE, not optional.) That's pretty silly.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

If you want a "little computer" and don't feel like paying for it through VZ, then shop around elsewhere. VZ isn't penalizing you for buying what you want, it is exploiting maximum profit from you for a luxury item that you're willing to pay for. That's business.

Last analogy. You know that you have to subscribe to XM before you purchase the car. If you don't like the sales/lease agreement, then by all means, shop for a different car.

Except fopr those of us with a phone they consider a smart phone and you won't use the web but they will force you to pay for it. So if i wanted to stay with better coverage I have to pay for a part of a plan I will never use. So now I will be forced to leave to a service that does nto work as well.

I am less than enthused and happy about their decision... Hopefully those of us that do not use the web at all on their phones like my family and IL's will leave instead of pay for it and Verizon will feel the pinch. Doubt they will feel the pinch but I can hope.
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain

I am not on contract - my IL's are but I am not. I tried to keep them off of the contract but my FIL believes that the service will stop if not on a contract. He ignores the fact I have not had a contract for 2 years...
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain

reply to openbox9
A company that forces you to pay for something you don't want and don't use is wrong, period and only happens if they are in a position of insufficient market competition where they can abuse customers.

I think because of the continuous abuse in the telecom sector we're going to need regulations that allow consumers to walk at a whim and at no cost to the consumer and with no hold-ups or delays. All expenses eaten by the carriers. That way maybe they'll have to wise up and stop trying to scam people for extra $$$, and actually worry about their customers leaving them.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

reply to openbox9
If they are the best for reception where you need it or use it - Verizon is holding the gun. Especially those folks using cells as their primary phone or travel a lot.
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain

reply to KrK
So you're blaming the gun manufacturer for you pulling the trigger? Sounds like a whole different debate

reply to CylonRed
But you still have choice, whether it be carrier or the phone you choose to use.

Not if another carrier does not cover the areas I need very well - one big reason for switching to Verizon for my wife and I. If even the basic phones (like I have) can get the web (it can) then there is no choice now is there? I have noticed this is the SECOND time I have mentioned this and you are ignoring by just repeating the 'switch' mantra and in cases - that is not a viable alternative.

And again - for those where they use the cell as their main phone and other carriers do not cover their area well - then that is a much larger issue is it not?

You can say switch all you want and that means choice but not all cell companies cover the same area well or well enough which could very well mean there is no real choice.

It is the "Pay us for something you will not use - or use the inferior service".

That is not a real choice in my opinion.
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain

And when those phones are gone and not available? It would still be ok I guess from your standpoint. It will happen - don't kid yourself that they won't be... Quite frankly - I trust no one on eBay - I do not buy from anyone on there. No real way to who is not scamming people. Just like I do not buy things from local stores for the same reason.

Again - the choice will eventually disappear but if you think Verizon won't continue the policy until forced to - well - I have a bridge to sell you.

And again - you assume that service with other providers is ok in the same area which for a number of cell companies - it is not. Something you have continually ignored in my posts. Could switch and pay more for the only other service that has close to the same quality. Not a good consumer choice imho.

When my phone breaks I will give Verizon the chance to sell me a phone that has no data plan - if they refuse then I will have to get with my IL's and hope another service has the same quality in the same places. If not - the consumer will suffer again - not Verizon...

Be entirely different if we bought phones and cell service in Europe - buy any phone we want and we go to the cell company and buy the services we want.
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain