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Mersault

join:2007-10-26
Toronto, ON
reply to haggaret

Re: Everything MLPPP

Sad to hear about the Sangoma situation. I've generally liked them, and it's a local company which is awesome. But I've only ever worked with their voice gear.


haggaret

join:2011-11-30
Stittsville, ON
reply to haggaret

My attempt to move from 2 to 3 bonded connections isn't going smoothly unfortunately.I don't see it stating a PPP session on eth3 as expected (see below).

Here is the output of db_dump:

root@Bonder-HDP:/opt/mlppp/bin# ./db_dump
ppp0_username=xxxxxx@yyyyyyy.com
ppp0_defaultroute=1
ppp0_multilink=eth0,eth2,eth3
ppp0-key=6674C145
ppp0-link=11348
ppp0_multilink_top=3
ppp0_remote_endpoint=local:34.36.30.38.33.32.30.30.32.36.00.00.00.00.00
_ppp0-0_lcp_status=1
_ppp0-1_lcp_status=1

Starting the connection:

root@Bonder-HDP:/opt/mlppp/bin# ./pppoe_start ppp0
Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.
Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.
root@Bonder-HDP:/opt/mlppp/bin# Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.
PPP session is 12280
Starting negotiation on eth0
PPP session is 3538
Starting negotiation on eth2
PAP authentication succeeded
peer from calling number 00:90:1A:A0:A2:7A authorized
Using interface ppp0
ioctl(PPPIOCSFRAG): Invalid argument (line 775)
New bundle ppp0 created
Terminating on signal 15
Connection terminated.
local IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
remote IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
primary DNS address 206.248.154.22
secondary DNS address 206.248.154.170
Terminating link on signal 2
Link terminated.
Timeout waiting for PADO packets

The other weird thing is that if I reboot the system, it all goes to hell. It doesn't start up automatically, and I had to re-copy over the /var/run/mlppp directory to get anything going.

Anyone have any experience with this that would be willing to help me out? Like I said - 2 seems to work fine, but trying to get to 3 isn't going so well.

Thanks

ziggy89

join:2009-12-16
London, ON

We currently are setup on single line MLPPP, and plan on having a dry loop line installed so we can set up up 2-line mlppp

I'm a little unclear about the physical setup. I'd really appreciate it if someone could clarify a few things for us.

Router is Linksys WRT54GL flashed with TOMATO

I'm thinking it would be set up this way:

Note: Router is Linksys WRT54GL flashed with TOMATO

Line 1 ( Our current DSL connection ) --> Modem 1 --> WAN port on Router

Line 2 ( Dry loop DSL line ) --> Modem 2 --> a LAN port on the Router

LAN2 ---> PC1
LAN3 ---> PC2

Then configure Tomato for 2 line MLPPP

Thanks


PSurge

@teksavvy.com
reply to TSI Martin

I have been getting intermittent link fragmentation on my 2 line MLPPP connection ever since the upgrade last Friday. This causes my connection to pause off and on when downloading and can be easily seen when doing a speed test. I'm currently using the following network settings:

Bundle MTU 1500

Link 1 MRU 1486
Link 1 MTU 1487
Link 1 MRRU 1500

Link 2 MRU 1486
Link 2 MTU 1487
Link 2 MRRU 1500

Tried a few values for MRRU including 1486, 1500 and 1590 and it does not seem to fix the issue. Any idea if something was changed with the upgrade in regards to MLPPP?

PSurge


joeyxl

join:2012-01-24
Newmarket, ON
reply to TSI Martin

i am wondering if this will help me,becuase i can only get 640k in my area.



clarknova

join:2010-02-23
Grande Prairie, AB
kudos:7
Reviews:
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said by joeyxl:

i am wondering if this will help me,becuase i can only get 640k in my area.

MLPPP will give you n(x)-o for speed, where n is the number of lines, x is the speed of the slowest of those lines, and o is the small overhead required to do mlppp.

If you can get 8 modems connected and each of them able to pull down a blazing 640k, then you can realistically expect to get around 5 mbps on the bundle. Make sure you get a router that can handle that kind of speed.
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db


PSurge

@teksavvy.com
reply to PSurge

said by PSurge :

I have been getting intermittent link fragmentation on my 2 line MLPPP connection ever since the upgrade last Friday. This causes my connection to pause off and on when downloading and can be easily seen when doing a speed test. I'm currently using the following network settings:

Bundle MTU 1500

Link 1 MRU 1486
Link 1 MTU 1487
Link 1 MRRU 1500

Link 2 MRU 1486
Link 2 MTU 1487
Link 2 MRRU 1500

Tried a few values for MRRU including 1486, 1500 and 1590 and it does not seem to fix the issue. Any idea if something was changed with the upgrade in regards to MLPPP?

PSurge

Issue is now resolved and was related to the DSL slowdown problem discussed in another thread. A system with 2 or more lines on MLPPP is more sensitive to connectivity issues and will usually result in intermittent connectivity as the split packets can't be reassembled in time.


toby
Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13
Seattle, WA
reply to TSI Martin

When using the Tomato MLPPP Version 1.27-mp3alpha7 on a WRT54G router, 2 phone lines, when I disconnect the second phone line, the whole connection goes down.

The router itself is not accessible until I reconnect the 2nd phone line.

Is this a known problem with the TomatoMLPPP firmware?



CyberCam

join:2008-04-21
Whitby, ON
Reviews:
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reply to TSI Martin

Has anyone tried the latest version of Vyatta's (6.3) MLPPP lately? Does it work? I've searched the forum & read some old posts that were back in 2008/09.

I was using pfSense 2.0.1 but kept having the router crash when using OpenVPN & UPnP with my PS3 so I've had to go back using my old WRT54G router with Tomato!



chpalmer

join:2002-11-18
Belfair, WA
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I use 2.0.1 with mlppp and openvpn quite heavily at my office with no issues... Not using UPnP however.... Have you tried a 2.1 snapshot based on freebsd 8.3? Im curious if that might help.

I was going to give Vyatta a try but have not and probably wont at this point.



CyberCam

join:2008-04-21
Whitby, ON
Reviews:
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I spoke to a Vyatta rep and he told me that MLPPP is only serial so Vyatta is a no go for Teksavvy, unless you want to mess around the PPPOE config yourself.

I'm going to give 2.0.1 another try in a few weeks when I upgrade my present server hardware and then use my existing server hardware for the new pfSense box, maybe the extra CPU/RAM (64bit) will have better results.

For now I'm back to using the old WRT54G running Tomato/MLPPP for just a little over a week... I'll post my results when I set it up.

Just curious, how do you set yours up... PPP group or VLANS... I was using the PPP group method?



clarknova

join:2010-02-23
Grande Prairie, AB
kudos:7
Reviews:
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I'm using pfsense 2.0.1 (and 2.0 and the betas previously) with 7 lines MLPPP. It's also an OpenVPN client but not much traffic goes over the tunnel.

The only trouble I've had since 2.0 went final is that I have seen one interface completely stop passing traffic (the whole physical interface, including several vlans). The other NIC with its vlans were fine, and I was able to reboot from the console. It's a production system and I wasn't able to find the root of the problem in the limited time I had to investigate before the reboot. Uptime was around 21 days when it happened.

No UPnP in use here though.

quote:
how do you set yours up... PPP group or VLANS...
What do you mean by that? The only way I know to set up mlppp in the pfsense GUI is by going to the PPPs tab, chooseing type PPPoE, then selecting multiple interfaces. Those interfaces can be real or virtual.

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db


infamouskid

join:2007-01-24
North York, ON
reply to TSI Martin

i too am experiencing my connection to pause on and off. it's a weird download spike that can be seen during any speed test or when downloading. it'll shoot up to max speed then slow down as low as 80kbps then go back up again.
i'm running openwrt/mlppp with 2 links on a TP-LINK TL-WR1043ND.
tried both round robin and fragmentation transmit modes and yield the same results. but as soon as i turn off mlppp everything is good.
oh i'm using 1.0.2-r352 btw.

what exactly was upgraded last week anyways?
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BELL CAN SUCKADANUTZ!



CyberCam

join:2008-04-21
Whitby, ON
Reviews:
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reply to clarknova

said by clarknova:

I'm using pfsense 2.0.1 (and 2.0 and the betas previously) with 7 lines MLPPP. It's also an OpenVPN client but not much traffic goes over the tunnel.

The only trouble I've had since 2.0 went final is that I have seen one interface completely stop passing traffic (the whole physical interface, including several vlans). The other NIC with its vlans were fine, and I was able to reboot from the console. It's a production system and I wasn't able to find the root of the problem in the limited time I had to investigate before the reboot. Uptime was around 21 days when it happened.

No UPnP in use here though.

quote:
how do you set yours up... PPP group or VLANS...
What do you mean by that? The only way I know to set up mlppp in the pfsense GUI is by going to the PPPs tab, chooseing type PPPoE, then selecting multiple interfaces. Those interfaces can be real or virtual.

The new (actually an old motherboard with AMD Duron onboard processor) hardware did the trick... pfSense is running perfectly now with no errors.

Never mind about the vlan question, I was reading up the documentation on the wiki and it included vlans as well as ppp instructions for mlppp. I assumed that the vlan method could also be used.

I must say that I find pfSense the best router software solution for Teksavvy MLPPP... and I've tried them all. It's fast & reliable (when your hardware it working correctly), and is much better than the Linksys WRT* tomato/mlppp and the TP-Link WR1043ND openwrt/mlppp solutions.




clarknova

join:2010-02-23
Grande Prairie, AB
kudos:7
Reviews:
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I'm glad you got it working.

said by CyberCam:

Never mind about the vlan question, I was reading up the documentation on the wiki and it included vlans as well as ppp instructions for mlppp. I assumed that the vlan method could also be used.

If you're referring to this page: »doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi-···P/MLPPP), I wrote that, so if you find it ambiguous or vague I would appreciate your feedback on how I could improve it.

edit: I think I see what you mean. I will reword it to try to make it clearer how vlans can work with mlppp.
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db


CyberCam

join:2008-04-21
Whitby, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
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said by clarknova:

I'm glad you got it working.

said by CyberCam:

Never mind about the vlan question, I was reading up the documentation on the wiki and it included vlans as well as ppp instructions for mlppp. I assumed that the vlan method could also be used.

If you're referring to this page: »doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi-···P/MLPPP), I wrote that, so if you find it ambiguous or vague I would appreciate your feedback on how I could improve it.

edit: I think I see what you mean. I will reword it to try to make it clearer how vlans can work with mlppp.

Yes, that's the document that I was referring to, it did confuse me, because I thought vlans could only be used by static connections & vpn's only.

It's a lot clearer now thanks for updating it!

bbud

join:2012-11-13
reply to TSI Martin

I am interested in getting 2 bonded Teksavvy 10/1 DSL connections for my office of 10 users but was wondering if we can use a block of static IP's on this type of setup? The reason I ask is that we host exchange and some web services here on our current 6/800kb connection and we are looking to increase the speed as 10/1 is the fastest we can get at our location and bonding looks like a good idea..

Thanks



TSI Martin
Premium
join:2006-02-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:33

Yes you can get a Static IP & Subnet on MLPPP connections.