 MrPremium
join:2002-12-25 | Gaming with LCD TV questions Hi everyone,
So i have a 26" Samsung LCD HDTV (LN26N360), I also have a ati radeon 5770. Here goes my questions, my tv according to the manual supports a native resolution of 1366x768 as the max resolution. However i have yet to see this resolution show up as an option either in the desktop or within games, so i have it always set at 1280x720. So from my understanding 1280x720 is 720p and my lcd does support 720p. However being as big as it is playing games on that resolution alone really gets downright ugly sometimes, i mean i played games on a 20" computer lcd in higher res that looked better. Is this tv really holding me back? I mean i tried playing games at a higher resolution but it looks downsized, as in there is a big black gap around all the sides when playing. Can someone please explained the analogy behind all of this, and give me some advice on whether this tv was a bad investment for gaming or if there are things that i can do to fix my problems.
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| 720p is unacceptable for a PC IMO. you'll want either a true PC monitor or a 1080p LCDTV. |
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 OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Mr
Check the documentation on your Samsung LN26N360 HDTV. Its not uncommon to limit the resolution on some inputs. So this might explain your resolution upper limit issue (assuming it isn’t a driver related problem). If a refresh rate is being forced then a specific resolution my not be given as an option for said forced resolution but I still think checking the documentation is a good idea.
1280x720 or 1366x768, you probably wont see much of a difference between the two anyway.
Naturally 1080p is more impressive so if you have the option you might want to rethink your HDTV choice. From Newegg, you can buy a HANNspree 32" 16:9 6ms 1080p for about ~$345 or a
TOSHIBA 32" 16:9 8ms 1080p for about $415 assuming you want to stayu with the HDTV option. |
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 The FlashYou don't win friends with saladPremium
join:2002-10-17
Toronto, ON
kudos:1 | said by Octavean:Check the documentation on your Samsung LN26N360 HDTV. Its not uncommon to limit the resolution on some inputs. So this might explain your resolution upper limit issue (assuming it isn’t a driver related problem). If a refresh rate is being forced then a specific resolution my not be given as an option for said forced resolution but I still think checking the documentation is a good idea. 1280x720 or 1366x768, you probably wont see much of a difference between the two anyway. Naturally 1080p is more impressive so if you have the option you might want to rethink your HDTV choice. From Newegg, you can buy a HANNspree 32" 16:9 6ms 1080p for about ~$345 or a TOSHIBA 32" 16:9 8ms 1080p for about $415 assuming you want to stayu with the HDTV option. the most important thing here is running at native res. For LCDs, anything other than native looks terrible.
There has to be a way to run at 1366x768. |
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said by Octavean:Check the documentation on your Samsung LN26N360 HDTV. Its not uncommon to limit the resolution on some inputs. So this might explain your resolution upper limit issue (assuming it isn’t a driver related problem). If a refresh rate is being forced then a specific resolution my not be given as an option for said forced resolution but I still think checking the documentation is a good idea. 1280x720 or 1366x768, you probably wont see much of a difference between the two anyway. Naturally 1080p is more impressive so if you have the option you might want to rethink your HDTV choice. From Newegg, you can buy a HANNspree 32" 16:9 6ms 1080p for about ~$345 or a TOSHIBA 32" 16:9 8ms 1080p for about $415 assuming you want to stayu with the HDTV option. do you have that HANNspree 32"?
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to The Flash
Yeah,….
I get that,….
I pointed out a couple of possibilities. I have seen it in documentation before where a specific model would do 1280x720 but not 1366x768 via a specific input using a PC but I suspect this is more an issue on “some” older models.
I had a friend that was using a 32” model HDTV some years ago. Via VGAit would cycle through various resolutions when booting and the resolution was displayed in the upper left hand corner. Once at the windows start up screen it would display the full 1366x768. Switching to HDMI it would display 720p (or 1280x720) for every screen without variation and wouldn’t go above that. I forget which model that was.
My old ViewSonic N3250W 32” had no problem reaching 1366x768 via VGA and HDMI if I recall correctly but I used VGA most of the time.
Granted the native resolution should look better but the OP may find that even once he achieves the top resolution of 1366x768 it still may not be up to his standards or expectations for gaming. Which was largely my point when referencing “1280x720 or 1366x768” earlier.
For some reason I was thinking the LCD TV was a new purchase. If it isn’t then obviously he can’t return it and get a 1080p TV.
Anyway, to solve this we probably just need to go down the line of possibilities logically and eliminate them one by one.
said by Subaru: do you have that HANNspree 32"? No I don’t have the HANNspree 32” that was more of an example although since the OP has a Samsung then perhaps a 32” Samsung would have been a better choice. I have a Samsung LN40B500 and an LG 42LH50 120Hz 1080p. |
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Subaru1-3-2-4Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT | Ah ok.. I was just wondering and I never could find any reviews on it.. I just upgraded from 20.1" 720p to a 23" LG 1080-p but the HANNspree 32” seemed nice for the price. |
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MrPremium
join:2002-12-25 | reply to Mr
If i connect it VIA VGA will it look any different? whats the difference between HDMI and VGA mind you, if i disconnect the VGA i will no longer be able to play sound from my computer to my tv. |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | VGA is analog whereas HDMI is digital. There is typically a image quality difference with HDMI having a better image. If connected via VGA a male / male mini audio plug can be used. However, we haven’t established that making such a change would correct your problem. Perhaps we could use more info on your setup.
What driver are you using for the video card?
What is the refresh rate at 1280x720?
What OS are you using?
Was there a driver disc that came with the TV for PC display usage? |
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MrPremium
join:2002-12-25
1 edit | Ok, so here it goes. I'm using windows 7 64 bit edition, the lasted Ati drivers 10.1, the refresh rate is 60hz at 720, and i never got a disc with the t.v i'm 100 percent sure about that.
I read the manual for the t.v, and it says that it goes up to 1360x768, but all over online says 1366x768. Which is kinda wierd. :S |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | Well I guess that all looks in order. Is the “Hide modes that this monitor cannot display” checkmark selected? Mind you I’m not suggesting you uncheck it if it is because that could cause some problems in theory.
Also I’m not sure what you meant by this:
said by Mr:I read the manual for the t.v, and it says that it goes up to 1360x768, but all over online says 1366x768. Which is kinda wierd. :S Did you mean to say a resolution 1366x768 for both? |
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MrPremium
join:2002-12-25 | No, the tv manual says the tvs resolution MAX is 1360x768 but online it says the max res is 1366x768... well somehow, im able to play games at 1360x720 without any issues or black bars...but any resolution higher then that and i get black bars around the whole image. |
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 are you using the videocard software to set the tv resolution.I think its called catalyst for ati cards? |
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I'd say 1366 is a typo,1360 is the standard... |
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MrPremium
join:2002-12-25 | reply to pinggrief
no im using the windows 7 resolution changer. The because im sure even if i used the graphics card one, it wouldnt force it, when i change the resolution in games. |
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I have a Sony LCD TV (32") and it suffers from overscan; if you try to put up a 1920x1080 image, it will appear too big.
I have an nVidia card, and there's a utility that puts up a picture with arrows pointing to the 4 corners, and has sliders for vertical and horizontal. You can adjust the output of the card such that you get the full PC picture on the screen. I'd assume ATI has something similar. This was a stock utility in my nVidia control panel; not 3rd party.
When you're done adjusting, the video card says it's driving the screen at some oddball resolution - not 1920, but maybe 1866 or something strange like that.
The text is NOT crisp, but when you're playing games everything looks fine. However, be aware that fast motion can sometimes blur, most TV's don't seem to have the response time that a dedicated monitor does. |
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