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Re: I didn't almost fall out of my chair! said by LightS:I know, right? Maybe the corporate overlords and industrial superpowers that run this country from the sidelines should take a look at this forum. Sad thing is, there's nothing we can do about any of it.  From the sidelines? From the front lines. It's no secret that corporate lobbyists pull the strings in Washington. Who has the louder voice? The paid puppeteer in his limo or the small businessman in Podunk, CO?
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1 edit | said by bent:From the sidelines? From the front lines. It's no secret that corporate lobbyists pull the strings in Washington. Who has the louder voice? The paid puppeteer in his limo or the small businessman in Podunk, CO? That's an unintended consequence of the hastily ratified 14th Amendment in 1866-1868.
Here's the real irony. After the Civil War, southern states began re-instituting slavery through laws prohibiting blacks from owning weapons, gathering in groups, voting, etc. The Feds tried to stop this using Civil Rights Acts, which were repeatedly ruled unconstitutional (because the Bill of Rights only applied to Congressional infringement, and the Federal government had no power to intervene in a state's infringement of its own citizens).
The Feds hastily ratified the 14th Amendment to give themselves jurisdiction. It was intended to 1) make all persons citizens of both their state and the Federal government. And, 2) extend the first eight Bills of Right (called privileges and immunities) to state or private infringement.
What happened? The Supreme Court immediately ruled that the 14th Amendment didn't do that. The era of Reconstruction was over.
It wasn't until the early 1920s that the Supreme Court heard a case involving the state of Minnesota banning subversive newspapers, and suddenly found that the 14th Amendment was supposed to extend the BoR against state infringement.
At that point, the SC undertook a campaign called "selective incorporation." Over the following 80 years it selectively incorporated individual clauses of the BoR into the 14th Amendment.
So, from 1868 until 1920, the clear intent of the 14th Amendment was ignored. But, during that time the Supreme Court used the 14th Amendment to extend the BoR to corporations! Something the drafters never intended!
Corporations are legal "persons" created by state legislatures to stand as the "fall guy" if officers and investors make poor choices. A fictional person treated legally like you or me.
The Supreme Court said the 14th amendment extended the BoR to those "persons." They have same freedom of speech, association and privacy as real, naturally born people.
Nobody even intended that.
So, today the 14th Amendment is what gives corporations such tremendous political influence. And, it's what makes us unique among other nations, where any alien can have a baby here and immediately be related to a US citizen (when the drafters of the 14th didn't intend that either). And, we got all this from the Supreme Court who sat around for 60 years ignoring the clear intent of the drafters of the 14th!
The amazing thing is, we do nothing about it. People are whizzing themselves about 2000 abuses during a 6-year period during which the laws didn't accommodate the government's surveillance needs. And, doing nothing to correct the true abuses which have arisen from the 14th Amendment.
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By "from the sidelines" i was implying that I meant a more literal version of backseat driving. It may not appear to the general public that do not pay attention that they are controlling them, but to us, we realize it.
They have far more power than they should, and it's simply not right anymore! | |
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