| Usenet + Encryption / Private BitTorrent They can't stop freedom |
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| My thoughts exactly, when the MAFIAA (+ ISPs sometimes) sets out to build a better cat/mouse trap, a better mouse will be built. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Underplay
So freedom is not paying for stuff you should? Please go to work and tell your boss you will now work for free so their customers can get free shit. Of course I am assuming you actually have a job. |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
South Williamson, KY | reply to BF69
Re: Usenet + Encryption / Private BitTorrent when you get right down to it... this country was made possibly by forcing black people to build it for us for free |
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jcp
join:2002-04-12
Richmond, VA
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1 edit | the civil war was over in 1865, black people have been free since to do as they please. no one forced them to lay fiber in the ground let alone build this country from what it was almost 150 years ago. so that really is kinda a moot point in this conversation |
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 GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
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said by BF69:So freedom is not paying for stuff you should? Please go to work and tell your boss you will now work for free so their customers can get free shit. Of course I am assuming you actually have a job. P2P != piracy.
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I will say that people who infer that protecting their personal P2P use is the Internet equivalent of protecting Bolivia from fascism aren't really doing copyright reform any favors.
I'll also say though that people who boil down the entire P2P crowd's arguments as "we like free stuff" haven't got much of a clue of what the debate is really about either. |
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That is true but has anyone gotten a DMCA warning for legal P2P? I'm sure a few people have gotten them mistakenly, but by far the majority of warning letters have been for illegally distributing copyrighted material. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Gbcue
said by Gbcue:said by BF69:So freedom is not paying for stuff you should? Please go to work and tell your boss you will now work for free so their customers can get free shit. Of course I am assuming you actually have a job. P2P != piracy. Did I say that? No. But downloading a torrent of movie is. Yes yes no one ever pirates movies, music and TV shows. All people do on p2p is download ISOs of Linux. |
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said by Karl Bode:I will say that people who infer that protecting their personal P2P use is the Internet equivalent of protecting Bolivia from fascism aren't really doing copyright reform any favors. I'll also say though that people who boil down the entire P2P crowd's arguments as "we like free stuff" haven't got much of a clue of what the debate is really about either. I was only replying to the person above talking about freedoms. P2P is about alot more, but people who reply about freedoms in a topic of copyright infringement are talking about one specific part of P2P. |
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GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
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said by BF69:Did I say that? No. But downloading a torrent of movie is. Yes yes no one ever pirates movies, music and TV shows. All people do on p2p is download ISOs of Linux. Downloading a .torrent file is not illegal.
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| said by Gbcue:said by BF69:Did I say that? No. But downloading a torrent of movie is. Yes yes no one ever pirates movies, music and TV shows. All people do on p2p is download ISOs of Linux. Downloading a .torrent file is not illegal. If it's not supposed to be copied around, it is. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to Underplay
They are determined to try. |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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said by BF69:So freedom is not paying for stuff you should? Nope. It's paying for stuff and then actually having a say in how you use it. It's like trying to bring balance back between corporate and consumer interests, instead of having it tilted all the way over to their end.
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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said by zipjay:when you get right down to it... this country was made possibly by forcing black people to build it for us for free Really. Nice history /fail.
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 KoolMoeAw ManPremium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD | reply to Karl Bode
infer or imply? (in the lead story, bolded, too)
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said by Gbcue:said by BF69:Did I say that? No. But downloading a torrent of movie is. Yes yes no one ever pirates movies, music and TV shows. All people do on p2p is download ISOs of Linux. Downloading a .torrent file is not illegal. Reading a book on how to rob a bank isn't illegal either. |
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said by KrK:said by BF69:So freedom is not paying for stuff you should? Nope. It's paying for stuff and then actually having a say in how you use it. It's like trying to bring balance back between corporate and consumer interests, instead of having it tilted all the way over to their end. I'd wager that a majority of the people who are talking about freedom, P2P and peerguardian, didn't buy anything they are talking about. |
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