| Crackdown is what we need quote:
18 states have already enacted anti-spam measures; these efforts are probably designed to head off a federal crackdown.
Why on earth would anyone want to head off a federal crackdown?
Let this problem get bad enough that George Dubya himself is so offended by mail-order bestiality that he gets in on the crackdown action.
This would be something useful for Ashcroft's storm-troopers to pursue.
Bring on the anti-spam cops! Root out and shut down all spammers! Limit this not just to the "federal" level but the "global"!
Let's start off with the $11,000 fine proposed by the FTC for folks who violate a do-not-call list. Then let's start hauling spammers off to that Guantanamo prison in Cuba. |
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six9
join:2001-12-03
Atlanta, GA | I think instead of some agency getting the fine money, the person "injured" should get the money. I am so damn sick of seeing penis enlargement, viagra, and university diploma spam it isn't funny. I don't need the first, therefore don't need the second and already have the third. If I could sue those bastards for 11 grand for each instance and have a chance to collect, I would. Regarding telemarketers, if nothing else those assholes should be required to release their caller id. And I should be able to recoup money lost by them interrupting me only to hang up as soon as I say "hello". Man they are annoying. At least spam can be filtered at the email client. If only there was a way to direct any "UNAVAILABLE" calls to a device that would give the disconnect tone. |
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mr2nut
join:2001-01-08
Fair Oaks, CA | My God do I agree!! I get 4 calls a week from windshield companies asking me if any of my vehicles have a cracked one... when in the hell did they get this bright sales approach??
This quote from the article:
"Because it's a voluntary program, it's not going to stop the vast majority of unscrupulous spammers who are only going to be stopped by the law," said Catlett, CEO of Junkbusters Corp.
Makes me laugh... 99% of spammers hide behind bogus AOL accounts and will probably never be caught, but regardless, what spammer is going to "Volunteer" to stop harassing folks if that's his/her livelihood?
This plan won't work for another reason:
Almost every piece of spam I get now has a notice at the bottom that roughly says "This message is not unsolicited. Your email address was given to us from a partner company, (or you signed up for correspondence at a partner site), or someone entered your email address at our site...blah blah"
So in other words, they've found a neat loophole of saying that somehow they got your email address and/or permission legally - and it's your word against their's. How can you be so sure that your bank didn't sell you out? Or that latest X-Box contest you entered didn't get you into this? So spammers can pretty much say they got it from some source and get away with it.
They should be hung by their nuts. |
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 Traal
join:2000-10-19
Mesa, AZ
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...a notice at the bottom that roughly says "This message is not unsolicited"...How can you be so sure that your bank didn't sell you out?
I'd be happy if releasing personal information (including name, address, telephone #, e-mail address, etc.) were prohibited without the consent of that person. Most (95-99%) of the spammers who have my e-mail address probably bought it as part of a list on CD-ROM from somebody else. And many of them consolidate those lists and sell them again to somebody else. The cycle continues, and there's NO way to stop the flow of spam to that e-mail address.
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Several states have do not call lists. You can find GA's at www.ganocall.com. You can sign up online. It costs 5 bucks for 2 two years. Telemarketers can be fined $2000 per call for calling someone on the no call list. |
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"So in other words, they've found a neat loophole of saying that somehow they got your email address and/or permission legally - and it's your word against their's. How can you be so sure that your bank didn't sell you out? Or that latest X-Box contest you entered didn't get you into this? So spammers can pretty much say they got it from some source and get away with it."
Simple as this - if you didn't ask for it, it's spam. It may or may not be "legal" but it's almost certainly against the AUP of the ISP they used to send it. Complain to the ISP and the ISP's upstream, if necessary. My email address is mine - just telling it to someone else doesn't make it theirs to pass on. This is part of the DMA (direct marketing assn.) plan to try to force-feed advertising to you 24/7. Opt-out is BS, and it'll never work. You opt out of my breast/penis/wallet enlargement offers today? Fine. Tomorrow, the company name changes & you get to opt out again. |
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