 diskaceElectronic Box CEOPremium,VIP join:2002-02-21 2 edits | Ebox MLPPP testing time Ok, so now it is ready for testing onto our network. Anyone who would like to test may do it now and report any troubles in this thread.
The target gateway -> 64.235.192.14
Both connections need to be on the same gateway as MLPPP is currently not working on any other of our gateways.
Forecast is that MLPPP will require one static IP that is currently offered for free on a 12 months term. The subnet pool will be dedicated to the dedicated MLPPP gateway. -- Electronic Box Inc. |
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 jfmezeiPremium join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC kudos:22 | What is the magic incantation that we must do to land on the .14 to test MLPPP ? has the "ebox.[username]@3menatwork.com" nomenclautre been re-enabled ? |
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 grunze510 join:2009-02-14 Cote Saint-Luc, QC kudos:1 1 edit | said by jfmezei:What is the magic incantation that we must do to land on the .14 to test MLPPP ? has the "ebox.[username]@3menatwork.com" nomenclautre been re-enabled ? If you use Tomato/MLPPP then the "Reject non-MLPPP connections" option would most likely work. If you use something else, then I guess you'd need to go through lots of reconnects. |
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 AngeloThe Network GuyPremium join:2002-06-18 1 edit | or you can write a script to disconnect and reconnect until you land on the proper gateway on the consumer end. |
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 CanerisErikCanerisPremium,VIP join:2007-10-03 Toronto, ON kudos:2 | said by Angelo:or you can write a script to disconnect and reconnect until you land on the proper gateway on the consumer end. Or you can develop a proper MLPPP CPE  -- Erik - Caneris Inc. |
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 hmm @mc.videotron.ca | reply to Angelo said by Angelo:or you can write a script to disconnect and reconnect until you land on the proper gateway on the consumer end. Would this not cause the Bell equipment to throttle your connection attempts?
When I left Bell this was exactly what they were doing.
JF would know a bit more about this and if Ebox is affected on multi-connect-disconnects (which I think they are... maybe). |
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| reply to CanerisErik said by CanerisErik:said by Angelo:or you can write a script to disconnect and reconnect until you land on the proper gateway on the consumer end. Or you can develop a proper MLPPP CPE i agree  |
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| reply to hmm Yes, multiple connection attempts will result in the BAS becoming unresponsive to further attempts for up to 5 minutes and then allow just one more before another 5 minutes of silence.
The timeouts are a power of two. After first failed attempot, there is a 1 second timeout, then 2, 4 , 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256 and finally 300.
In the early tests of the .14 ebox had special usernames which caused the tunnel to be created to the .14 (similar to what another ISP (whose name I am not allowed to mention) had done to fix their MLPPP issues.)
The .14 is behind other routers, it doesn't have its own AHSSPI feed.
So we must wait Mr Diskace's information on what login nomenclature is needed to reach .14 so we can test the MLPPP.
Shock ! Horror ! I might have to send him an email ! (He's had enough trauma today, as I already spoke to him on the phone !) |
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 grunze510 join:2009-02-14 Cote Saint-Luc, QC kudos:1 1 edit | reply to jfmezei
Re: Ebox MLPPP testing time said by jfmezei:Shock ! Horror ! I might have to send him an email ! (He's had enough trauma today, as I already spoke to him on the phone !) What are you doing to the guy! |
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 diskaceElectronic Box CEOPremium,VIP join:2002-02-21 | for now we don't have the nomenclatures but we will re-enable something like: mlppp.username@dsl.net just like what we tried with the Autonomous System this autumn.
Right now, you have to force sessions on the same gateway .14
Anyone here can test and report ? -- Electronic Box Inc. |
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 AngeloThe Network GuyPremium join:2002-06-18 | if you guys are going to connect and disconnect in your scripts add a sleep timer between conecting to avoid bells timeout. |
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1 edit | reply to diskace Mr Diskace, when you say "force session on the same gateway .14", how do we do that ?
Friday morning, I did end up on .14 twice. Is it part of the standard pool of routers which handle any user on 3men ? Or do the AHSSPI facing routers only give .14 to users which radius qualifies as "ebox" ?
Angelo, unless you wait 15 minutes between login attempts (which resets the lock out to 0), you still get hit by it by the lock out.
What is not sure is whether a PADI request during a lock out will increase the lock out period (even though it is ignored) or whether it is only a PADI request that arrives after a lock out as ended.
For instance, if you are currently locked out for 4 seconds, if you send a PADI after 5 seconds, you will get a PADO, but if the login fails, the lock out increases to 8 seconds.
But if you send a PADI after 3 seconds, you will not get a response since it is during the lock out period, and it is not sure if this action results in the lock out increasing to 8 seconds or whether only the next PADI sent after the 4 second lock out ends will cause the increase to 8 seconds.
This will dictate whether it is worth coding delays in the scripts or not. If a PADI during a lock out period does not change the lockout period, then there is no point in having a script.
But if such a PADI does cause the lock out to increase, then there is a point in having a script since there is no point in sending a PADI during a lock out when you know that you won't get a response, while you also know it will extend the lock out. |
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 | reply to diskace I got 64.235.192.14 on my second try.  |
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 diskaceElectronic Box CEOPremium,VIP join:2002-02-21 | said by Mike2009:I got 64.235.192.14 on my second try. So how is it so far ? -- Electronic Box Inc. |
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| I got onto .14 again this weekend. You still had the mtu problem. (sent an email to support with details.) So I am now one one of the old routers that rarely respond to traceroutes. (.26)
You're not going to impress girls with such a small MTU 
If I fall on .14 with the MTU problem, is it worth calling in so you can investigate, or are you able to fully debug this ?
Note that I have adjmss to 1492 in my router. But that shouldn't stop MTU discovery, right ? |
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 | reply to diskace I would love to test MLPPP. But don't I don't have a router that supports tomato/dd-wrt  |
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| reply to diskace said by diskace:said by Mike2009:I got 64.235.192.14 on my second try. So how is it so far ? Great! |
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 diskaceElectronic Box CEOPremium,VIP join:2002-02-21 | reply to fromage said by fromage:I would love to test MLPPP. But don't I don't have a router that supports tomato/dd-wrt Can get some for around 60$ (WRT-54GL). We will have some in stock very soon. Want one ? -- Electronic Box Inc. |
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| I have a cisco router that is presumably capable of MLPPP, but I would rather wait until the fine folks at Ebox give us a username nomenclature which gets us to .14 in one shot.
Mr Guspaz's opinion of Cisco's MLPPP implementation isn't too high so I would rather eliminate the "must try and try and try until I get to .14" variable so that my tests can be easier to debug. |
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