said by amigo_boy:said by Skippy25:I bet you can recite that quote forward and backwards WHILE under the influence.
Since you skirted my question the last time
(Here) lets ask it again and this time WITHOUT you asking me a question as a response.
said by Skippy25:So by your train of thought what was the FISA court setup for?
Sounds like everything was in place and there was no need for this court and yet it was setup for........... ?
1. We know FISA didn't strip the executive of all power to operate outside of FISA (if unforeseen circumstances arose). 18 USC 2511 is proof of that. As was Congress's use of that law as the basis of so-called "immunity."
2. We know events of 9/11 were unforeseen circumstances which FISA didn't accommodate. That's evidenced by Congress expanding FISA with the Patriot Act to better accommodate the Executive's actions (which Congress validated as covered by 18 USC 2511).
It seems like you want me to prove that FISA as it existed prior to 2006 wasn't sufficient. I can't prove that. All I can say is that the President and Congress felt it wasn't sufficient.
I believe it's your responsibility to prove FISA was sufficient, and that the President and Congress was wrong.
Knock yourself out. But, it doesn't change the fact that the system of balanced powers worked mostly as it's intended.
Mark
The system did NOT work as intended. The government along with corporate interests BROKE the law repeatedly. In the same spirit of TK's do things first then take care of the paperwork, I would suggest to:
1. Arrest all involved, including their supporters, since they are a danger to US constitutional principles (I have a "good belief" of that)
2. Transport them to a secret location and torture them (ahem, "robust interviewing") since waterboarding is not really torture, right ?
3. Summarily judge them in front of a military tribunal, in secret, using evidence obtained using torture and hearsay evidence, too, while we are at it
4. Execute them and fake a suicide or heart attack
5. Write a letter of apology about an unfortunate misunderstanding in case anyone finds evidence towards their post mortem exoneration
6. Blame a corporation for the misunderstanding. Since a corporation is a fictive entity, no one can be really punished, right ?
How do you like it when it applies potentially to YOU ?