I saw an interview with that guy. They asked him what he did, and he said he defined what torture was. They asked him - "But we had a treaty that said we wouldn't torture, and yet torture wasn't defined?" And Yoo said tortured wasn't allowed under the treaty, but torture had never been defined before, nobody had laid out what torture was. They then asked him - if torture hadn't been defined - how did we charge people with it decades ago? Yoo then replied - "Well, they clearly stepped over the line into torture." Basically he stood by the notion whatever he said was ok to do was completely legal, but you know if any of it had been done to him he'd have considered it torture.