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| Figures The speed would be so low. I get 3-4 megs down on AT&T 7.2 network now. LTE is obviously capable of faster speeds but I think the limiting factor here is Verizon's limited knowledge in LTE and an incompatible backhaul system that would need to be upgraded. Once the latter is completed then the speeds will increase. I think this is why AT&T is working on the backhaul system now. |
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 bentand IngaPremium
join:2004-10-04
Loveland, CO
·Comcast
| said by megatron266:The speed would be so low. I get 3-4 megs down on AT&T 7.2 network now. LTE is obviously capable of faster speeds but I think the limiting factor here is Verizon's limited knowledge in LTE and an incompatible backhaul system that would need to be upgraded. Once the latter is completed then the speeds will increase. I think this is why AT&T is working on the backhaul system now. The limiting factor is the US B-school model of "if you aren't required to by law or one-uping a competitor, don't dare do it."
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Same here.
"Oh.. We don't *HAVE* to upgrade our network? Lets *NOT* do it then."
I swear, with the mentality of most CEOs and CIOs, I'm surprised we even have broadband. If it was up to them, we'd still be on dialup. |
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 tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | reply to bent
then Explain VZW and ATT rolling out LTE. Or TMO rolling out HSPA+ as we speak? |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to bent
said by bent:The limiting factor is the US B-school model of "if you aren't required to by law or one-uping a competitor, don't dare do it." It's all about getting fiber to the right places (also known as the last mile) and that's something U. S. providers are reluctant to spend enough money on. |
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One upping = taking one small step slightly above your closest competitor to make it appear you are competing and are superior in some way.
Did you not get that part? |
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tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
| said by Skippy25:One upping = taking one small step slightly above your closest competitor to make it appear you are competing and are superior in some way. Did you not get that part? And you're saying that HSPA+ isn't better than HSDPA? Or that LTE isn't better than WiMax?
What's not to get?
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 tim_kButtons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, KaseyPremium,VIP
join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
kudos:13 | said by tiger72:said by Skippy25:One upping = taking one small step slightly above your closest competitor to make it appear you are competing and are superior in some way. Did you not get that part? And you're saying that HSPA+ isn't better than HSDPA? Or that LTE isn't better than WiMax? What's not to get? The point is corporations deploy these techs in areas to one up their competition. In areas where there is little to no competition, they don't bother. Why are they deploying all these new techs in areas that already have many other broadband choices? Why aren't any of these techs being deployed to under served areas with little to no broadband options?
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tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
| said by tim_k:said by tiger72:said by Skippy25:One upping = taking one small step slightly above your closest competitor to make it appear you are competing and are superior in some way. Did you not get that part? And you're saying that HSPA+ isn't better than HSDPA? Or that LTE isn't better than WiMax? What's not to get? The point is corporations deploy these techs in areas to one up their competition. In areas where there is little to no competition, they don't bother. Why are they deploying all these new techs in areas that already have many other broadband choices? Why aren't any of these techs being deployed to under served areas with little to no broadband options? Because they want a return on their investment. If you had $50,000 to invest on upgrading a tower to HSPA+, would you spend that in Bolivar, Tennessee or Boston, Massachusetts? You'd spend it on Boston because you want to *surprise* turn a profit.
All of these rollouts happen in cities because that's where it's more likely to turn a profit sooner. This isn't a revelation - it's actually how every single business on the planet makes its decisions.
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tim_kButtons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, KaseyPremium,VIP
join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
kudos:13 | said by tiger72:Because they want a return on their investment. If you had $50,000 to invest on upgrading a tower to HSPA+, would you spend that in Bolivar, Tennessee or Boston, Massachusetts? You'd spend it on Boston because you want to *surprise* turn a profit. All of these rollouts happen in cities because that's where it's more likely to turn a profit sooner. This isn't a revelation - it's actually how every single business on the planet makes its decisions. With so much competiton between techs and other ISPs, do they really make as much profit as they could by serving an area with no broadband coverage, but with with lower population dencity?
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tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
| said by tim_k:said by tiger72:Because they want a return on their investment. If you had $50,000 to invest on upgrading a tower to HSPA+, would you spend that in Bolivar, Tennessee or Boston, Massachusetts? You'd spend it on Boston because you want to *surprise* turn a profit. All of these rollouts happen in cities because that's where it's more likely to turn a profit sooner. This isn't a revelation - it's actually how every single business on the planet makes its decisions. With so much competiton between techs and other ISPs, do they really make as much profit as they could by serving an area with no broadband coverage, but with with lower population dencity? According to the industry - yes. I believe that if T-Mobile or Sprint found out otherwise, they'd be more than happy to change the status quo if it benefited them at the expense of ATT and VZW. Apparently the status quo works better.
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