 FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19 | way to go comcast! as much as I hate the thought of actually going to comcast I like the speed and the thought that they are actually playing with IPv6
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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Katy, TX | IPv6 provides you with no extra benefit as a customer.
Don't forget they have a 250GB a month cap.
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FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
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| yea when I try to download a lot i only get ~100gb-150gb a month. i'm on 6mbps AT&T DSL right now. comparable service is the 12mbps service and I still don't know if I would hit it.
like I said, I have to try to hit what i'm using right now. if I don't try i only use about 50-75gb.
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
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kudos:4 | reply to r81984
said by r81984:IPv6 provides you with no extra benefit as a customer. Don't forget they have a 250GB a month cap. So does IPv4 
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brad
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Etobicoke, ON | reply to r81984
said by r81984:IPv6 provides you with no extra benefit as a customer. I'm a customer and it benefits me.
You fail. |
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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1 edit | said by brad:said by r81984:IPv6 provides you with no extra benefit as a customer. I'm a customer and it benefits me. You fail. Please tell me how??
What benefit do you get over IPv4?
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| No More NAT and public IPs for all your devices. |
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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1 edit | said by Napsterbater:No More NAT and public IPs for all your devices. When I had comcast I had a public IP. Comcast did not use NAT. I had NAT on my home network which was not a problem at all.
Now we will see if comcast will give static subnets which will take away their current revenue source for making you pay extra for static IPs.
If they have dynamic subnets then your home network will be screwed if you wanted to use static IP address. You will have to use IPv4 behind a router to be able to keep static IPs on your home network.
I could see them making you pay extra for static subnet to get static IPs on IPv6 which means if you want static IPs on your LAN you will be forced to pay.
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| With IPv6 Every device on your LAN will get a Public IP.
No More port forwarding.
Now there is two way it could be implemented.
1. You have a router (or the modem act as the router) and it gets a "WAN" IP and then you have your own subnet
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2. you hook up with a switch and all you devices get IPs that way.
Thanks to link local address you can have you LAN and WAN on the same broadcast domain.
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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| With IPv6 you will not have private IP addresses like with IPv4.
No need to use a switch a IPv6 router will work and allow you to use a firewall. When using the router the IP addresses will still come from your ISPs based on your subnet.
If your ISP has a dynamic subnet then all of your device IPs will change when they change your subnet.
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| You do have local IPs they are called Link local IPs They only work in the same broadcast domain though so a tad different then the LAN IPs of IPv4, since you can not route them at all.
AFAIK there is no way to have a dynamic subnet behind a router that would be assigned from the provider, It would have to be a static subnet, Altough from you ISP's address pool.
but if you use a switch only (or a transparent firewall) all the local client could receive IPs via DHCPv6 or auto-configuration.
Again depend on how they implement it.
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I have to agree with r81984. it changes nothing worth talking about for me. I don't even know if I was all my devices with public ip's. Do you have NAT problems or your router or something? |
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said by r81984: You will have to use IPv4 behind a router to be able to keep static IPs on your home network. Initially, that will be what the large majority of customers will continue to do. Use a router that will handle IPV4 on home network side and IPV6 on the Comcast Network side. |
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AVonGaussPremium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | reply to r81984
said by r81984:IPv6 provides you with no extra benefit as a customer. The fact that IPv6 does not use any type of NAT scheme alone makes it beneficial to customers. |
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 jjmb
join:2009-12-01
USA | reply to Napsterbater
said by Napsterbater:With IPv6 Every device on your LAN will get a Public IP. No More port forwarding. Now there is two way it could be implemented. 1. You have a router (or the modem act as the router) and it gets a "WAN" IP and then you have your own subnet or 2. you hook up with a switch and all you devices get IPs that way. Thanks to link local address you can have you LAN and WAN on the same broadcast domain. In cases where a single standalone CPE like a PC running Vista/7 is connected to a cable modem directly the PC would likely gets IPv6 address just like it gets its IPv4 address from the ISP DHCP server.
In the cases where the home network is IPv6 capable (native, dual stack support in the home router/gateway) the router/gateway could be delegated an IPv6 prefix (RFC3633) for use within the home.
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jjmb
join:2009-12-01
USA | reply to Napsterbater
said by Napsterbater:You do have local IPs they are called Link local IPs They only work in the same broadcast domain though so a tad different then the LAN IPs of IPv4, since you can not route them at all. AFAIK there is no way to have a dynamic subnet behind a router that would be assigned from the provider, It would have to be a static subnet, Altough from you ISP's address pool. but if you use a switch only (or a transparent firewall) all the local client could receive IPs via DHCPv6 or auto-configuration. Again depend on how they implement it. I posted something a few minutes ago. There is a standardized mechanism that providers can leverage to delegate IPv6 prefixes to subscribers/users. RFC3633 defines that mechanism in case you are interested. This mechanism does in fact leverage DHCPv6 (RFC3315) to delegate IPv6 prefixes using the providers DHCPv6 infrastructure.
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jjmb
join:2009-12-01
USA | reply to AVonGauss
said by AVonGauss:said by r81984:IPv6 provides you with no extra benefit as a customer. The fact that IPv6 does not use any type of NAT scheme alone makes it beneficial to customers. Not requiring NAT is often cited as one of the main benefits of IPv6.
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Ah did not know that was part on DHCPv6, I stand corrected.
Thanks for the info. |
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