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fiberguy
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reply to Skippy25

Re: It's very simple when it comes to ETFs...

said by Skippy25:

And yet you spend so much time here........
And? ... so what...

I find it entertaining.. there is some information, but I also know how to spot BS and I also know how to debate and argue against that that I don't either agree with, or believe are way over the edge.. that's what a debate is about.. otherwise, what you're telling me is what I"m saying is true.. this is a bitch board, and I don't believe that's what the creator of this site intended originally back when it was founded years ago.

You say the consumer is greedy, I say the consumer is protective of his money.
Don't put words in my mouth.. I said the consumer is "equally as greedy" ... and they are..

Being protective of your money is one thing... (a whole other discussion) But, SPENDING WISELY is another.. To say the consumer is protective of their money is fine.. however, the way you're implicating that is so much that the consumer is OWED a certain price that fits their budget.. and guess what.. there is a plan that fits the consumer's budget.. however, you believe that the consumer should have anything they want at a better price... sorry.. not the way it works.

The consumer can be protective of their money by choosing not to spend it on certain things. Sorry, but if you can't afford an iPhone on your budget, don't buy one.. if you don't like the BlackBerry on Verizon becuase the cost is too much, go to another carrier.. and if the over all price of a top of the line phone, ie: the PDA, is too much - then maybe you either don't need one, or your budget doesn't allow for one. And, to be honest, the PDA is designed for the business person to begin with. While it may be popular amongst some personal users, it really is not a personal end-user device.. its far more phone than the normal end user needs.

So, with that said, protect your money.. but get something in that your budget allows. If you believe you really need a high end phone, or you need all the bells and whistles that come with it like mobile internet, etc... well, then maybe cut back on OTHER expenses... don't buy that plasma TV.. don't buy the iPod.. don't buy such an expensive car.. and if all those aren't already in the expense list and you still can't afford the high end stuff.. what does that say to the consumer.. DON'T BUY WHAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD! I know that some people here, such as yourself, believe that people are entitled to have access to everything.. but, the fact is, you're going to be hard pressed to find any one responsible, or with an ounce of brain in their head, to agree with you. Sorry..

The consumer doesn't get to just make up fees or raise his salary when ever he feels like it to accommodate himself like the corporations you come here turfing for do.
Ummm.. when did I ever "turf" (dumbass) for fees? You clearly don't read.. my position has ALWAYS been that companies need to simply put their BS fees into the cost of basic services and stop breaking them out.. All they are getting from doing that is a cheaper base rate to advertise.. I've never strayed from my point of view. And, there is a difference between TAXES and FEES.. If a company needs to add a "fee" becuase it cost them that much to do business, then it's CLEARLY a cost of doing business and needs to be reflected in the base rates. Period.

As for mandatory network price plans attached to certain phones.. well.. sorry, I tend to agree with them. There are things YOU don't think of, or may not think of.. but, maybe there are costs associated with supporting those users who have phones that are CLEARLY designed for network use who end up with network charges WITH OUT plans that end up costing the company time, money, and resources, to explain to the consumer that they should either buy a plan, OR, realize they will be charged by the byte... maybe they're looking at numbers YOU don't see and realize it's time to attach appropriate plans to phones that were designed for certain uses.. and again, I agree with this. Why buy an iPhone if you're not going to use the data.. the phone is designed for it. Why have a blackberry and not have data? .. for an easy way to text? If that's the case, then get a more appropriate phone that is simply designed for texting.. Companies sell these phones with the nation that the end user will use data.. when they don't take data, they lose money on the device in the long term scheme.. since there are plenty of different model of phones out there,.. the basic flip, texting phones, multimedia phones and PDA/Smart Phones.. get one that matches your needs.. simple.

Nor does the consumer get to pass on any cost, fines, or fees associated with consumption of products or life in general on to their employers at the drop of a hat to maintain their standard of living.
This is just plain silly.. I won't even touch this statement becuase it's plain silly.. Employment is AT-WILL in most states.. you don't have a right to work.. I just simply can't understand your thinking on this.. but I really don't care to be honest.. But anyway.. you have the ability to avoid doing business with companies that you don't like their policies. And, in this case, a cell phone is still not considered a necessity.. so, if you don't like what you have available to you.. then, find other choices - as there are many - or go with out.

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