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tiger72
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Re: Will LTE be pitched for fixed wireless to the home?

I'm not sure Verizon has enough spectrum capacity to really deploy this as a home broadband replacement for most of the country. Clearwire definitely benefits from it's large holdings (~120mhz nationwide) in the 2.5ghz range. 2.5ghz also allows for more capacity than 700mhz. And Verizon only has about 34mhz of 700mhz holdings in most major markets. Couple the smaller spectrum holding with the lower capacity of 700mhz, and I just don't see how VZW can offer a home broadband replacement via LTE like Clearwire can via WiMax... At least not without destroying that CDMA map they're so proud of.
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Sabre
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For home broadband, I don't think they're offering a replacement so much as an option.

As previously pointed out, a lot of those rural customers (of which I may soon be one) don't have options. Cable HSI is spotty if they choose not to wire your street, satellite is a non-starter, and for those poor Fairpoint/etc. people, DSL lacks appeal if provided by a company that's buried under debt.

That's the market this would be aimed at. Fixed wireless via LTE probably wouldn't fly in cities, for precisely the reasons you raise. But out in Appalachia and the like (which isn't always as poor/hickish as stereotypes make it out to be) it would be a very appealing option, if decently reliable.
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reply to tiger72
Actually, 700MHz propagates MUCH farther than the 850/1900 EvDO that Verizon is using right now.

Also, if Verizon wants to do high-capacity (versus long-reach, which seems to be the focus with LTE-700) they can turn the pwoer on their transmitters down (way down) and deploy towers closer together.

iansltx

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True. 5-12/2-5 Mbps could probably be sold for $50 by Verizon, plus VoIP of some sort (maybe another $40 for unlimited local and long distance). Wouldn't be FiOS, but would beat DSL more often than not on speed and the price is about what people will pay for service in those areas.


Matt3
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said by iansltx:

True. 5-12/2-5 Mbps could probably be sold for $50 by Verizon, plus VoIP of some sort (maybe another $40 for unlimited local and long distance). Wouldn't be FiOS, but would beat DSL more often than not on speed and the price is about what people will pay for service in those areas.
Hell, that would beat Road Runner in most areas too.

iansltx

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True, though it looks like TWC is slooowly rolling out 15/2 as their highest tier across all markets. Or 15/1 anyway.


Matt3
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said by iansltx:

True, though it looks like TWC is slooowly rolling out 15/2 as their highest tier across all markets. Or 15/1 anyway.
They need to hurry the hell up here, we're still 7Mbps/384Kbps or 10Mbps/512Kbps.

iansltx

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Hopefully NorthState will start doing pair bonding and offer something better than 768k up, and CenLink will do 25/2 pair-bonded...


Matt3
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said by iansltx:

Hopefully NorthState will start doing pair bonding and offer something better than 768k up, and CenLink will do 25/2 pair-bonded...
I have 15/2 from NorthState over fiber (grandfatherd in tier and could have ordered 30/5), but it will take Time Warner to up their speeds before NS will offer anything higher. They don't need pair-bonding to offer more than 768Kbps up, they are doing that now because at twice the speed of their competition, they can.

iansltx

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Right, saw that. Sad to see a company actually DOWNGRADE their offerings due to lack of competition (and interest?)


Matt3
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said by iansltx:

Right, saw that. Sad to see a company actually DOWNGRADE their offerings due to lack of competition (and interest?)
The official line is they didn't want to offer disparate packages to fiber customers and to ADSL2+ customers who subscribed to IPTV. Their ADSL2+ circuits didn't support more than 768Kbps once you throw IPTV into the mix. I was also told by a technician they aren't delivering IPTV over copper at all, so who really knows?

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reply to iansltx
said by iansltx:

True. 5-12/2-5 Mbps could probably be sold for $50 by Verizon, plus VoIP of some sort (maybe another $40 for unlimited local and long distance). Wouldn't be FiOS, but would beat DSL more often than not on speed and the price is about what people will pay for service in those areas.
Why would they need to charge separately for VOIP?

iansltx

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Because they make money that way, and everyone else charges separately for VoIP?