vdiggy
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Porter Ranch, CA | My Tax Dollars go to capture a so called "thief" The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by vdiggy:The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money. These criminals rarely shoot back.
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said by vdiggy:The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money. The FBI is and always was the main investigators of white collar crime in the US. Their national security mandate makes up a small percentage of their workforce. Those duties are handled by many other intelligence agencies trained specifically for anti-terrorist work. |
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While I, too, question the cost:benefit ratio for cracking down on these modders, I have to admit, how much does it really cost to track down someone who advertises their "wares" in plain sight (or, in this case, site). They probably put the Academy interns on these cases.  |
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quote:
The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money.
Should cops only investigate murders and forget about rapes and theft? Same goes for the FBI which is why there are different departments.
Tell you what the FBI can use my tax dollars for investigating these types of crimes and use yours for national security.
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LOL. I would imagine not! |
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 TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | reply to Grail Knight
said by Grail Knight: quote:
The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money.
Should cops only investigate murders and forget about rapes and theft? Same goes for the FBI which is why there are different departments. Tell you what the FBI can use my tax dollars for investigating these types of crimes and use yours for national security. True.
However, in a time of fiscal insecurity, the FBI should be focusing on real threats. Of course, this one case doesn't prove anything about the FBI not focusing on 'real' threats.
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Grail KnightQui audet adipisciturPremium
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kudos:6 | I am sure they have people working on real threats but you still can not turn a blind eye to other crimes.
Seems to me it is always the little things that get one in trouble.
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said by Grail Knight: quote:
The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money.
Should cops only investigate murders and forget about rapes and theft? Same goes for the FBI which is why there are different departments. Tell you what the FBI can use my tax dollars for investigating these types of crimes and use yours for national security. ROFL!!! they investigate thefts where you live? All they do is report it, some rookie cop might even act interested for a little while, and try to help |
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kudos:6 | Sorry to hear you live in such a city where cops do nothing more then act interested for a little bit.
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said by walker4289:said by Grail Knight: quote:
The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money.
Should cops only investigate murders and forget about rapes and theft? Same goes for the FBI which is why there are different departments. Tell you what the FBI can use my tax dollars for investigating these types of crimes and use yours for national security. ROFL!!! they investigate thefts where you live? All they do is report it, some rookie cop might even act interested for a little while, and try to help They investigate in my area. I know two people who got stolen items returned to them specifically because of the investigators doing their job.
And in each instance the perpetrators were arrested. Although I have no idea what the final outcome was for them.
the investigators found leads interviewed people etc, to find the people that stole the items.
They need to lock the people up using and selling these modified cable modems. People would think twice about doing it. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | reply to vdiggy
said by vdiggy:The FBI needs to concentrate on matters of national security, instead of wasting my hard earned tax money. The FBI is well with in their area to police this.. ie" FEDERAL Bureau of Investigations.. ... "hard earned tax dollars"... seriously, some of the BS in this thread is getting deep...
And who says this isn't a matter of national security? It very well can be just that.. just as epidemic health problems are also a matter of national security. Seriously, you need to study up a little more on what makes a country run.
If people grab anonymous internet access, that very well can be a threat to national security... or do you not get that? Remember 9/11? Most of those people operated under the radar.. who's to say that these modems, or modems like this, can't be used by such a group of people for illegal activity?
Same thing with gun laws... gun laws are silly and useless.. it just means that those who are following the law will be more easily tracked in the time they need to be.. you think criminals are out registering their guns? No.. they do it under the table to make it easy to cover their tracks..
If you think anything else-wise to my post, then you're sadly mistaking yourself and not understanding how criminals work and WHY they do what they do NOT to get caught... I mean, who's to say THIS guy was doing anything to harm the country.. prolly not... but who's to say that HIS work doesn't or can't get into the wrong hands... think about it.. and please, call me crazy now for my thinking... I just thank god that law enforcement things the same way becuase in crime, WE have to be right ALL the time (the good guys).. they, the criminals, only have to get it right once. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | reply to Tzale
"However, in a time of fiscal insecurity, the FBI should be focusing on real threats"
ALL threats are real... law enforcement, if you haven't noticed, is not budget affected... there will always be money for enforcing laws.. and this IS a real "threat"... anyone that wants to break or violate our laws "ARE" threatening us.. all of us.. you just don't care to realize why or how.. |
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1) fbi does more than just 'national security'. they have multiple departments that focus on different crimes. anyone who thinks going after one specific crime means they arent focusing on other things is just foolish
2) selling modems that can hide your identity can easily be considered a national security issue. do you want some radical terrorist browsing the internet and recruiting people without being able to be tracked down ??? |
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2) selling modems that can hide your identity can easily be considered a national security issue. do you want some radical terrorist browsing the internet and recruiting people without being able to be tracked down ???
I'm curious how many radical terrorists have been tracked down by information from their modems.
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2) selling modems that can hide your identity can easily be considered a national security issue. do you want some radical terrorist browsing the internet and recruiting people without being able to be tracked down ???
I'm curious how many radical terrorists have been tracked down by information from their modems. ...and, it's so hard to get legal access to the Internet these days.
Really, why would anyone planning major illegal activity risk all of their "big plans" by committing piddly little crimes (though, yeah, there may be some that are really that stupid). By and large I think the people who do this are either poor or cheap, or do it for "fun" or "thrills" or whatever, or all of the above... but national security threats? ...very low likelihood. |
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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This is a preventable crime. If the FBI had anyone that knows about network security they would have told the cable companies to block duplicate mac addresses instead of having the FBI waste their time.
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 FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
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the only ones getting hurt here is the cable co's. customers are only hurt because the cable co was not able to manage their network. bottom line.
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said by fiberguy:If people grab anonymous internet access, that very well can be a threat to national security... here is a thought, fix the cable network so it cannot be hacked like this. obviously they know that it can be done relatively easily. terrorists won't go to loudmouths like this to get their access they will hire someone who knows what they are doing and pay them to shut up.
i'm not going to say the fbi doesn't need to investigate this, they do need to. but the cable co's need to step up and do their part too. shut down the gaping hole in their networks.
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 ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP
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Canada | reply to fiberguy
Besides, once "your" tax money leaves your hands, it is not "yours" anymore, but goes to purposes which serve the common good. Law enforcement is one of those purposes.
You may not agree with any/all expenditures, but that is what taxation with representation is about. |
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