FBI Arrests Another Cable Modem Hacker > stealing is wrong

said by lovemyfios :

whether or not cable companies can or cannot secure their networks is not the point

stealing is wrong

imagine someone owns a house, imagine that person leaving their door open, that does not give the right for someone to walk in and steal from them.

also, theives hurt the rest of the people who are honest and are paying. how the costs of the service is not being shared by theose stealing it.

i like my broadband internet, especially when im downloading the latest video game at lighting fast speeds, and i know it costs money to get me that level of service, so i just cant side with those who steal it.

think of a local store who sells shoes, shoes i like and buy, and some people well they rob the store, when i buy a pair of shoe from that store part of the price i have to pay is for the shoe and the other is for the theives. else the store goes out of business and i can no longer buy the shoes that i like from it.

said by fiberguy:

"Providing info / selling modified equipment shouldn't be a crime. Using it to steal service is."

Ummmm.. okay... if you say so...

Selling hacked key cards to a secured building that you have no right to do so should be okay as well.. it should be a crime only when someone uses that key, right?

The fact remains.. it's not this guys place to sell hacked hardware to circumvent the security features of the ISP.. What you and many are failing to realize is that this guy isn't just selling blank keys.. he's selling the ones already cut and able to open the door to the ISP... he's "hacked" - think about the word HACKED for a moment.. there are SPECIFIC LAWS on the books about hacking.. the guy did the hacking, which is illegal.. he hacked the system to make his modded modems work.. that's a crime. Owning and possessing something that is technically deemed illegal IS in fact a crime too..

Law is not cut and dry.. just becuase you find one area that is gray and "seems" okay.. or "should" be okay.. there ARE other laws that do support defining crime.. like the 1st.. people think we have free and clear freedom of speech.. we don't.. there are OTHER laws that do work WITH the 1st that do actually limit the speech and supporting actions that cause the crime..

So.. I assume that making and putting together dirty bombs and selling them shouldn't be a crime either.. just only when they are used.. right?

said by lovemyfios :

whether or not cable companies can or cannot secure their networks is not the point

stealing is wrong

imagine someone owns a house, imagine that person leaving their door open, that does not give the right for someone to walk in and steal from them.

also, theives hurt the rest of the people who are honest and are paying. how the costs of the service is not being shared by theose stealing it.

i like my broadband internet, especially when im downloading the latest video game at lighting fast speeds, and i know it costs money to get me that level of service, so i just cant side with those who steal it.

think of a local store who sells shoes, shoes i like and buy, and some people well they rob the store, when i buy a pair of shoe from that store part of the price i have to pay is for the shoe and the other is for the theives. else the store goes out of business and i can no longer buy the shoes that i like from it.