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| Yep.... ....and they are all over ebay and Craigslist. Fact is, this can't be stopped. The cablecos are using an authorization system that's virtually WIDE OPEN! It's their own fault this is happening! Relying on MAC addresses for authintication is a DUMB IDEA-because it's WAY too easy to clone a MAC address! |
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kudos:3 | said by qworster:....and they are all over ebay and Craigslist. Fact is, this can't be stopped. The cablecos are using an authorization system that's virtually WIDE OPEN! It's their own fault this is happening! Relying on MAC addresses for authintication is a DUMB IDEA-because it's WAY too easy to clone a MAC address! So this makes it okay for people to break the law? I don't see the logic... car lots leave keys in cars too... doesn't give you the right to simply drive off with one.. same with car rental companies..
This justification that if it's there and easy pickings it should be damned on them.. and not damned on the person that is taking advantage is sickening.
PEOPLE need to know the difference between right and wrong.. and sometimes they need to be reminded.. harshly.. this "hacker" knew what he was doing... hackers aren't stupid.. they sit there for hours modding, hacking, and trying to crack code.. you think their hacker buddies don't celebrate this fact?
This isn't about hacking a modem.. it's about people WILLINGLY doing something wrong.. and the dolts who are supporting or justifying their behavior... I hope that anyone of you guys trying to justify this or lay blame on the provider for it being "their fault" realizes how silly that is.. just wait until a nice, spring day when you sit at home.. decide to leave your front door open to enjoy the fresh air and someone walks in and does a home invasion... I mean, it's YOUR fault for the DUMB IDEA becuase you left your door open.. right? I mean, don't you have a right to be and feel secure in your home??
I'm really REALLY shocked by some of you people... we live in a nation where we work HARD not to live under lock and key.. and those that want to take advantage of certain things will soon learn what they should have known all along.. "what's not yours, is not yours to just take"... we know what is right and wrong, and ESPECIALLY do the hackers... so stop supporting them! |
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1 edit | The FBI must have better things to do then going after small time criminals. If the cable companies wanted to stop theft they could-by tightening up their security. Despite what others say here FACT is that cable modems are SO wide open that you can drive an oil tanker through them! Instead they cheap out by having practically NO security at all-and get the tax payers to pay for prosecuting theft. As others have said here, if I leave the door to my house wide open and someone robs it I will get little sympathy from the cops-but COMCAST gets the FBI to do their investigations for FREE (giving them more money to buy NBC)! Instead of doing this LAZY stuff (you can open Craigslist and find people to prosecute), why doesn't the FBI do some REAL work-like finding serial killers and terrorists? Or is the threat of someone stealing cable service a greater security threat then people bringing explosives on airplanes?
It's a simple matter of priorities, and frankly there HAS to be something more productive for the FBI to do with their limited resources! |
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 FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19 | reply to fiberguy
of course it doesn't make it right. stealing is wrong.
but so is negligence.
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kudos:3 | said by FBGuy:of course it doesn't make it right. stealing is wrong. but so is negligence. I'm sorry, but you're wrong... wrong wrong wrong.. you're stating that two wrongs don't make a right, plain and simple. The fact remains that there are established laws on the book that state you can't access the network with out authorized equipment... these so-called "gaping holes" that are there, which aren't or more people would be doing this, doesn't mean that anyone has a right to steal service.. so I agree with you on this point.
Just becuase someone walks away from their car with the door unlocked for a few minutes doesn't make someone opening the door, taking stuff out of it, and running any more justifiable..
Again, my premise is plain and simple... PEOPLE do know right from wrong.. the very fact that this guy put so much time and effort into modding his modem to gain "free" service, a service that requires payment, makes him a criminal according to the law. Besides, as I've said before in posts, if this guy is hacking or modding cable modems, it only makes law enforcement wonder if he's doing this to other networks, like banks, or other sensitive networks...
Even if the guy isn't hacking more than a modem, law enforcement, especially the FBI when it comes to network hacking, is going to have great suspicion as to what else he may be up to. And, if he's up to nothing else.. well, oh well.. he's still breaking the law.
As of today, in this case, the negligence you speak of is not illegal. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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said by qworster:The FBI must have better things to do then going after small time criminals. How do you know this is all he's been up to?
And, um, the tax payer ALWAYS prosecutes criminals... or do you not understand that? CRIMINAL matters are always "The People" vs "X"... When people speed, the tax payer pays for that.. when people rob homes, the tax payer pays for that, when Bernie Madoff stole billions, the tax payer paid for that..
The fact you're sitting here making a stink about the FBI doing their job becuase "poor comcast is asking for tax payers to enforce the law" is absolutely absurd.. just admit it, you hate paying your internet bill and it's a pleasure to bash the cable and phone companies.. in short, get over it. In your words, comcast has no rights to ask law enforcement to go after criminals... especially when it's under their jurisdiction to do so..
If Best Buy was hacked into and your credit card information was compromised, would you be crying foul that the FBI went after the criminal? I mean, in YOUR eyes, Best Buy would be asking the tax payer to go after a criminal becuase, well, just about any network can be hacked into... or as people say "SO wide open"...
Really.. this line of thinking is insane on your part.
You also act like the FBI is only capable of doing one thing at a time... They have multiple divisions that do different things.. this is one of them.
I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of listening to what is obviously un-educated people bitching about the government doing their job and not understanding how the system works.. this is their job.. they're just doing it. Leave the cable company out of it.. |
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i didn't say that the negligence of the cable co's was illegal. i said it was wrong.
there are things that are wrong and not illegal.
the cable co's are to blame, morally not legally. they are lazy. they know about this problem. if they would just fix the problem then this would be a lot harder to accomplish.
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kudos:3 | So again, you're placing blame on those in the right instead of those that are willfully breaking the law.. is that what you're saying?
There are ESTABLISHED laws on the books - that's my point - that clearly state that what he is doing is illegal.
I could care less if the service is wide open to anyone to take, it still doesn't make it right.
People have been plugging themselves in to the system for free television for years.. there's only so much they can do to secure that as well.. peds are easily broken into, lock boxes can be cut open, and yes, people do climb poles to hook themselves up... the fact remains that there are laws against this and people still take the EFFORT to break them.. and, those people should be punished. If you don't like this, then change the laws and get the blame places on the providers but until such time, I could care less about how loose the cable systems are, he's still breaking a law.
You've made many comments about the cable system for being open - but you've yet to say a word about the law breaker.. that's disturbing. |
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| i'm not arguing with what you are saying. its all true. but I am saying that the cable companies need to step up their game a bit and try to fix this on their side. it is too easy to use a hacked modem. how about they figure out how to not have it work.
getting free cable is a lot easier than getting free cable internet. they have that working for them. they can fix the free cable tv problem by scrambling the signal and making their subscribers get a box from them with traceable information. RCN does that where I live. they do not offer analog tv service at all.
i don't say anything about the law breaker because there is not defense. its wrong to steal. how much more clear do i have to be with that?!
The cable co's are doin
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