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koolman2
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK

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reply to lqrisquicker

Re: Crack down

Speedtests are also done in bits, whereas normal download programs report in bytes.

For example, my home connection is 12/1 Mbps. That means that I can download at 12 megabits per second, or 1.5 megabyte per second. The fastest I'll see in a browser while downloading a file is 1.5 MBps, which is exactly what I'm paying for.

I really wish the world would standardize on one form of measure: either the bit or the byte.


PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

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said by koolman2:

Speedtests are also done in bits, whereas normal download programs report in bytes.

For example, my home connection is 12/1 Mbps. That means that I can download at 12 megabits per second, or 1.5 megabyte per second. The fastest I'll see in a browser while downloading a file is 1.5 MBps, which is exactly what I'm paying for.

I really wish the world would standardize on one form of measure: either the bit or the byte.
I wish we'd standardize kibibit and kebibyte verses kilobit and kilobyte so I don't feel like I'm being shortchanged everytime I purchase a HDD.


puddleglum

@xmission.com

It will never happen since the advertising misleads you into thinking you get more than you actually do. Just look at how the marketing droids have gotten you to use kebi instead of kilo. Thats not right. Computers have always been based on powers of 2 (thus 1024 instead of 1000). Trying to make things decimal here only leads to deliberate obfuscation.


andre2

join:2005-08-24
Brookline, MA

said by puddleglum :

It will never happen since the advertising misleads you into thinking you get more than you actually do. Just look at how the marketing droids have gotten you to use kebi instead of kilo. Thats not right. Computers have always been based on powers of 2 (thus 1024 instead of 1000). Trying to make things decimal here only leads to deliberate obfuscation.
I think it's just that each sector of the industry has its own traditional measure, and can't change because it would confuse customers. CDs are sold using power-of-two units, but are incorrectly labeled with power-of-ten units, so a "700 MB" CD is actually 700 MiB which is larger. On the other hand, DVDs use power-of-ten units, so a 4.7 GB DVD is exactly that.

I think the solution is that whenever powers-of-two are meant, the extra "i" should be used in writing the size. If everyone did that, the ambiguity would be gone, since a size without the "i" would always mean power-of-ten. Computer people could pronounce the sizes in the old way if they want (for example pronounce MiB as "megabyte") as long as it's written correctly.

BTW not all computer hardware is based on powers-of-two, for example AFAIK there is no good reason to use powers of two for hard drive sizes, or networking speeds.


koolman2
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK

reply to PapaMidnight
I've gotten around that by telling people that I have a one-trillion byte hard drive.


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