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Pirate515
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On top of that, I think another thing that kills game sales is DRM and copy protection that is being used on media that games are sold on. Some of it is so outright draconian (StarForce anyone) that people would rather download a bootleg with all the cr@p stripped down then pay for a legit version and put up with all the "security" checks and constantly having to prove that they have in fact paid for it. Seems like with many games legit users are being punished for doing the right thing instead of being rewarded as they should be.
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NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

Not to mention the ones they believe they are inconveniencing are the ones playing before release.



Goober
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Naperville, IL
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said by Pirate515:

On top of that, I think another thing that kills game sales is DRM and copy protection that is being used on media that games are sold on. Some of it is so outright draconian (StarForce anyone) that people would rather download a bootleg with all the cr@p stripped down then pay for a legit version and put up with all the "security" checks and constantly having to prove that they have in fact paid for it. Seems like with many games legit users are being punished for doing the right thing instead of being rewarded as they should be.
You just made my point. In a society without blatant and clear IP infringement, there would be no need for that kind of draconian DRM.

NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

Is that why it is still used, although the only person it inconveniences is the paying customer?



Goober
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said by NeoandGeo:

Is that why it is still used, although the only person it inconveniences is the paying customer?
I personally think so. It's a clearly non-working miguided attempt by the industry to protect its IP.

I'd be interested in knowing how Turbotax has done. There was a period of a year or two a few years back where TT tried the DRM route and ticked off a lot of paying customers. They dropped the DRM. I'd like to know what impact that had on their sales.


Gbcue
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said by Goober:

said by NeoandGeo:

Is that why it is still used, although the only person it inconveniences is the paying customer?
I personally think so. It's a clearly non-working miguided attempt by the industry to protect its IP.

I'd be interested in knowing how Turbotax has done. There was a period of a year or two a few years back where TT tried the DRM route and ticked off a lot of paying customers. They dropped the DRM. I'd like to know what impact that had on their sales.
I still buy it every year. I would never download a copy from the internet knowing what might get programmed into it from a bootleg copy.

Those years with TurboTax, they tried a CD key and copy protection. Everybody basically rebelled.
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InfinityDev

join:2005-06-30
USA

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human

"a society without blatant and clear IP infringement"?

I hope you're not implying one particular country or society steals. Humans commit all the crimes of selfishness they want when there are no repercussions. They do so even more when their peers actively reward the behavior.


Goober
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said by InfinityDev:

"a society without blatant and clear IP infringement"?

I hope you're not implying one particular country or society steals. Humans commit all the crimes of selfishness they want when there are no repercussions. They do so even more when their peers actively reward the behavior.
Nope. I don't even know which country is the worst infringer of IP rights anymore. I will venture a guess based on my past experiences in trademarks and patents that the vast majority of IP infringement is in China and India.

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