 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Opinion I think it's pretty well known that Obama believes more in openness and consumer protections than the previous administration. The real question, is will he have the cajones to take on big telecom, will he let the FCC (Migdon Clyburn) tackle it, or will the big telecom lobbying machine bribe enough members of Congress to stymie any attempts to kill metered billing? |
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 DaveDudeNo Fear join:1999-09-01 New Jersey kudos:1 | Actions speak louder , then words. There was no openness regarding the healthcare bill. Why would this be different ? Plus i dont think this the role the of the president. |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | said by DaveDude:Actions speak louder , then words. There was no openness regarding the healthcare bill. Why would this be different ? Plus i dont think this the role the of the president. There was plenty of openness until it went into a thousand committees. |
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 1 edit | Consumer protections? Maybe, it's yet to be seen. Openness? That's laughable. Having a closed door meeting where only Obama, Reid and Pelosi are hammering out the details is in no way "open." And this is just a single example of how he has reneged on this campaign promise... there are plenty others.
EDIT: I should also add that just because Obama's mug is plastered on the evening news every night so they can inform us as to what kind of ice cream his daughters had when he took them out or what vegetables his wife Michelle is growing in the White House garden does not qualify as being "open." |
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 | reply to DaveDude You're right. Bush redid all the bankruptcy laws to favor corporations and businesses, Obama on the other hand passed a bill that allows renters to stay in their homes for 90 days after being foreclosed on. Actions DO speak louder than words. -- Capturing the images of Colorado »jdebordphoto.com |
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1 edit | reply to Matt said by Matt:I think it's pretty well known that Obama believes more in openness and consumer protections than the previous administration. The real question, is will he have the cajones to take on big telecom, will he let the FCC (Migdon Clyburn) tackle it, or will the big telecom lobbying machine bribe enough members of Congress to stymie any attempts to kill metered billing? They are going to have to be opposed to metered billing lest they suddenly have a desire for a major increase in taxes. Since broadband has basically been declared a right, allowing the industry to go to metered billing means the government, hence us who pay into the USF, will have to pony more money for all those people who are too poor to afford service. Not saying I agree with the "broadband is a right" idea but metered billing will only increase the costs for the people who pay their own bills beyond their own costs. We will be paying substantially more into the USF in order to keep the carriers fat and happy. Flat rate is the only thing which will keep things in check for now. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears. |
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| reply to HotRodFoto said by HotRodFoto:You're right. Bush redid all the bankruptcy laws to favor corporations and businesses, Obama on the other hand passed a bill that allows renters to stay in their homes for 90 days after being foreclosed on. Actions DO speak louder than words. So loans shouldnt be repaid to lenders ? |
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 | reply to Matt If only he and Biden would get out of the MPAA's bed we'd be set. |
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| reply to Matt Obama has no control over congress. All he can do is teach them how our government is supposed to work, who the government is supposed to protect, what the constitution says, and how compromise works.
If congress can't learn these things then Obama will not be able to do anything. -- Republicans: less fiscally conservative than that other party. |
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 patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | said by r81984:Obama has no control over congress. All he can do is teach them how our government is supposed to work, who the government is supposed to protect, what the constitution says, and how compromise works. If congress can't learn these things then Obama will not be able to do anything. Time for Obama to learn how to Veto, and how to order around the executive depts to make congressmen's life hell in their districts. Or turn the FBI on congressmen for embezzlement and election laws violations. |
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| If Obama wants to uphold his standards then he will have to veto everything. He has to compromise like everyone else. It is hard enough to compromise with 51 people, now we have to do it with 60 people in the senate.
These people are so stubborn that you have to agree to give their state billions of non existent money to get their vote. Then you have more people who demonize everything so you have to give their state even more free money for them to vote for something that they told all their people was the devil. -- Republicans: less fiscally conservative than that other party. |
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 jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | reply to HotRodFoto Funny, I don't seem to recall the executive branch being able to "pass bills." Perhaps a civics lessons is in order?  |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | said by jester121:Funny, I don't seem to recall the executive branch being able to "pass bills." Perhaps a civics lessons is in order? Everyone knows that when Bush was "president" it was just Dick Cheney ruling by decree! And if you didn't like it, he'd shoot you.  -- "Net Neutrality" zealots - the people you can thank for your capped Internet service. |
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 | reply to r81984 he can veto. but he doesn't, make up your own reasons why. |
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 patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | reply to r81984 said by r81984:These people are so stubborn that you have to agree to give their state billions of non existent money to get their vote. Then you have more people who demonize everything so you have to give their state even more free money for them to vote for something that they told all their people was the devil. Then time to Edgar Hoover them. They will speak with a woman who isn't their wife, or take a gift from lobbyests eventually, or hell, just make stuff up and leak it to MSM. |
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 WhatNowPremium join:2009-05-06 Charlotte, NC | reply to matrix3D They learned all about open government from President Chaney. |
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he can veto. but he doesn't, make up your own reasons why. Why so anonymous? Is this George Bush posting on dslreports???
Obama can't just pass whatever he wants. Bills start in congress. If the bill is 60% good and 40% garbage he have no choice to allow the 40% garbage or the good will never be passed. Nothing may ever get passed if there is no compromise. -- Republicans: less fiscally conservative than that other party. |
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 | reply to DaveDude said by DaveDude:said by HotRodFoto:You're right. Bush redid all the bankruptcy laws to favor corporations and businesses, Obama on the other hand passed a bill that allows renters to stay in their homes for 90 days after being foreclosed on. Actions DO speak louder than words. So loans shouldnt be repaid to lenders ? Is predatory lending actually lending? -- Capturing the images of Colorado »jdebordphoto.com |
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 | reply to r81984 said by r81984:said by nedaname2p :
he can veto. but he doesn't, make up your own reasons why. Why so anonymous? Is this George Bush posting on dslreports??? Obama can't just pass whatever he wants. Bills start in congress. If the bill is 60% good and 40% garbage he have no choice to allow the 40% garbage or the good will never be passed. Nothing may ever get passed if there is no compromise. Ohhh I see. Corporations can write legislation and have it introduced by donations, but the President can't get something put before Congress by finding sponsoring members. Nice |
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| reply to HotRodFoto said by HotRodFoto:said by DaveDude:said by HotRodFoto:You're right. Bush redid all the bankruptcy laws to favor corporations and businesses, Obama on the other hand passed a bill that allows renters to stay in their homes for 90 days after being foreclosed on. Actions DO speak louder than words. So loans shouldnt be repaid to lenders ? Is predatory lending actually lending? Is forcing banks to give bad loans, good policy ? -- They Live... We Sleep...
Spreading the wealth around never results in a better outcome for people. It always results in destruction.
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