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dfxmatt

join:2007-08-21
Evanston, IL

reply to fiberguy

Re: Sure if it was cheaper

where do you make this up?

If I rent a comcast line and do anything involving making a profit at home, suddenly I have to pay extra? Please.

I signed up for a contest and won it. Technically that was using the internet connection I pay for. Suddenly I have to pay $20 extra a month for making a profit?

you might want to think about what you're implying as it's asinine and incorrect.

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said by dfxmatt:

where do you make this up?

If I rent a comcast line and do anything involving making a profit at home, suddenly I have to pay extra? Please.

I signed up for a contest and won it. Technically that was using the internet connection I pay for. Suddenly I have to pay $20 extra a month for making a profit?

you might want to think about what you're implying as it's asinine and incorrect.
I'm not making it up.. it's how THE PROVIDERS set up the lines... Take cox.. they block port 80 for a reason.. THEY feel that inbound port 80 is used to run servers.. THEY see servers as a business tool.. THEY feel if you want to run a server THEY want you on a business class service. NOTHING has changed.

If YOU want the tools necessary to run a server, you need to buy the services they have provisioned for that.

Lets make this simple.. show me in the TOS agreement for residential service where it says you have the right to run servers... can you do that? it will make things SO much more easy here. Sure, YOU can do business on a residential line all day long.. many people do.. but when you want the tools and you want to run the load of a business that those tools require, then you tell the providers you're going to do what YOU want and see how far that gets you. But, if your ISP blocks port 80, 25, and 110 on a residential line and you want those open to run your business, guess what, you're going to have to most likely buy their business services to get them, and yes, Comcast, for example, charges more for that.. like I said, about $20. Good luck getting support from your ISP if you run into problems on a residential service.

I've been around long enough to know what this is.. nothing has changed in 20 years.. The TOS remains the same, the service restrictions haven't changed very much, and ONE thing for sure is that you still can't just do "anything I want with my line.. I own it"...

This whole debate runs down to one simple thing.. what does the TOS say...? Show me in the TOS that YOU own the line.. that it will support servers or that you're even allowed to run them.. and when you show me that, I will back down on my points.. I won't hold my breath becuase unlike many here, I actually read them. I follow the rules.. and until those rules change, I am not going to risk my connections and risk the possibility of loosing it so that I can be a wounded soul here complaining becuase my ISP booted me off for breaking the agreement.

And in close, I'm not incorrect... I just have a hard time listening to anyone that has the agreement available to them and willingly wants to sit here and deny what's in front of them.

Look up one term.. "Typical RESIDENTIAL use".. and then YOU rethink about what you're saying.

I'm talking about what is currently right and wrong.. you're talking about a battle you want to have in the hopes to change things.. there is a major difference.

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