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<description><![CDATA[pnjunction posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/945359" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=945359');">Thaler</a>:</small><br><br>I don't think I've ever seen any professor take a test-time absence seriously without some documentation. Gone to the doctor and they couldn't write you a letter? FFS. You give the doctor revenue, the least they could do is scribble a quick 1-minute letter/sheet saying they were in your office.</div>Doctors should write bogus notes because they're getting revenue for the visit?!?<br><br>The point of the note isn't that you visited your doctor (possibly just to ask for a note), it's that you were too ill to write the test.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1523173" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1523173');">pnjunction</a>:</small><br><br>Maybe jury duty should be added to the list, but I agree that people should absolutely not get out of finals without an 'official' reason (doctor note or jury letter).  You open up even the slightest to listen to people's excuses and general conflicts and you'll get every one in the book.<br> </div>I just want both parties to come together to some kind of resolution. Both the courts & schools just say "not our problem", and it's left to the student to find a resolution to ill-timed jury duty. As I have found, sometimes the only way is to bail on your court duties.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1523173" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1523173');">pnjunction</a>:</small><br><br>People work the system as it is.  I've overheard douchebags talking about how their 'asshole' doctor wouldn't give them a note for 'fatigue', 'stress' some BS reason, but they're going to family friend who will hook them up.  Infuriating.  I expect there are forgeries too.<br> </div>I don't think I've ever seen any professor take a test-time absence seriously without some documentation. Gone to the doctor and they couldn't write you a letter? FFS. You give the doctor revenue, the least they could do is scribble a quick 1-minute letter/sheet saying they were in your office.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[pnjunction posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/945359" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=945359');">Thaler</a>:</small><br><br>(edit) I think the only excuse I've seen a university accept for missing on common finals are medically unavoidable excuses (ie. car wreck on the way to final, immediate surgery, etc.). </div>A note from a doctor is the only that gets you 'out of' a final at most institutions.<br><br>Maybe jury duty should be added to the list, but I agree that people should absolutely not get out of finals without an 'official' reason (doctor note or jury letter).  You open up even the slightest to listen to people's excuses and general conflicts and you'll get every one in the book.<br><br>People work the system as it is.  I've overheard douchebags talking about how their 'asshole' doctor wouldn't give them a note for 'fatigue', 'stress' some BS reason, but they're going to family friend who will hook them up.  Infuriating.  I expect there are forgeries too.<br><br>Forgeries would be the bigger problem with jury duty.  Don't see how you'd get them to actually give you jury duty at a certain time, but I've wondered if the schools even vet these type of letters/notes as procedure or just file them away.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/840866" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=840866');">Sweet Witch</a>:</small><br><br> <br>And you can't take the test later because someone might give you the answers, right?<br> </div>Yep. And I can't take it earlier because I'd jeopardize the integrity of the department's common final.<br><br>Basically, while they may be required by some level of government to make accommodations, I'm like a cog in the machine on a large campus. They're too big to work around oddities like "jury duty", but they'd be happy to fail my ass for missing out on a test worth 40-60% of my grade.<br><br>It's a catch-22. The court system doesn't recognize my academic needs, because colleges are supposed to work around such mandates. Large colleges in the real world though, really don't see jury duty as a valid excuse for missing a critical exam.<br><br>(edit) I think the only excuse I've seen a university accept for missing on common finals are medically unavoidable excuses (ie. car wreck on the way to final, immediate surgery, etc.).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Sweet Witch posted :  <blockquote><small>said by <a href="/profile/945359" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=945359');">Thaler</a>:</small><hr>I believe since most (if not all) college gets goverment monies, they're also supposed to accomodate jury duty excuses. However, you try and get a college department to reschedule a common final for you and see how well that goes. <hr></blockquote><br><br>And you can't take the test later because someone might give you the answers, right?<br><small>--<br>"While you can teach an old dog new tricks, you simply can't teach him to be a cat."<br><br>"Are you my Mummy?"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[NY Tel posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/945359" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=945359');">Thaler</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/986823" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=986823');">NY Tel</a>:</small><br><br>Here in New York, you are allowed to ask for a postponement (or 2) and actually PICK the week you want to serve.<br>Can't get more accommodating than that.<br> </div>I wish that was the case. In LA, you just get a choice for "postponement" - they pick the date. I had one service date assigned to a class midterm date (where the professor was extremely stringent). I had a doctor friend write up a medical postponement, and the court then decided my next best date to serve was during the common final. FFS.<br> </div>Well I can understand because NY used to be like that.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/986823" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=986823');">NY Tel</a>:</small><br><br>Here in New York, you are allowed to ask for a postponement (or 2) and actually PICK the week you want to serve.<br>Can't get more accommodating than that.<br> </div>I wish that was the case. In LA, you just get a choice for "postponement" - they pick the date. I had one service date assigned to a class midterm date (where the professor was extremely stringent). I had a doctor friend write up a medical postponement, and the court then decided my next best date to serve was during the common final. FFS.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/840866" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=840866');">Sweet Witch</a>:</small><br><br>They expect you to fail college??<br> </div>I believe since most (if not all) college gets goverment monies, they're also supposed to accomodate jury duty excuses. However, you try and get a college department to reschedule a common final for you and see how well that goes.<br><br>Yeah, the L.A. county notices explicitly say that academic reasons are not valid excuses for postponement.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[NY Tel posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/945359" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=945359');">Thaler</a>:</small><br><br>I wouldn't mind jury duty...but then they have the badass method of picking dates that coincide with things that can't be arranged (ie. finals, weddings, vacations planned + purchased for months ahead in time, etc.). <br> </div>Here in New York, you are allowed to ask for a postponement (or 2) and actually PICK the week you want to serve.<br>Can't get more accommodating than that.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : I wouldn't mind jury duty...but then they have the badass method of picking dates that coincide with things that can't be arranged (ie. finals, weddings, vacations planned + purchased for months ahead in time, etc.). I try and ask for an extension, but often I'm told that my explanations don't matter (school "events" especially - apparently unchangeable common finals means squat to them).<br><br>So, basically I just don't go until they threaten the cops or fines. Then I go, make a stink, and get sent home.<br><br>Hell, the last batch wanted me to go deeeeep downtown and arrive daily at 8 AM. To beat that kind of LA traffic, I'd have to leave around 5-6 AM, and then add another +2-3 hours commute back during rush hour. For $15 a day (or whatever peanuts I get), screw that noise. Give me some local representation, or even around an hour driving commute each way. But 50+ miles of 10-20 MPH traffic? Yeeaaah...no.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[61999674 posted : It isn't "servitude", you are paid for your services, although it is much less than most people make in a day, BUT most employers at least make up the difference so you lose nothing by serving.<br><small>--<br>It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[pnjunction posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/796459" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=796459');">vasta</a>:</small><br><br>Chances are if I had to go they'd take a look at me and say we don't need you </div>It sounds like you'd get that response just about anywhere you go.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[nickdigger posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/933889" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=933889');">jdjbuffalo</a>:</small><br><br>This is why I think they should have a law requiring that the company fully pay you for the time needed on a jury.   A minimum of 1 week per year.  Most trials take only a few days anyways.<br><br>This would allow hopefully help fix this problem of people not wanting to serve.</div>Bullshit.  The <b>court</b> should pay each juror's full wages/salary, not the jurors' employers.  If the system had unlimited, free labor at its disposal, it could prosecute anyone for anything, anytime it wants.  With all the laws on our books, every person, every day, is 'guilty' of some infraction.  Prisons should be occupied by serious offenders, whose victims are other citizens -- not "the state".  Ditching jury duty is a form of jury nullification, as the smaller juror pool forces them to prosecute only the most serious cases.<br><br>There is also the elephant in the room, known as the 13th Amendment to our Constitution, which forbids <i>"...involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted..."</i>  Are any of you chest-thumping, bra-burning flag-wavers willing to declare US citizenship a convictable offense?<br><br>Anyway, I wouldn't recommend making statements like "i hate cops", or "blacks" or "i believe in nullification".  Just stare at the defendant or prosecutor, either maniacally or lasciviously.  Or draw a swastika on your forehead.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[NY Tel posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1657165" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1657165');">Van</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/129458" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=129458');">KrK</a>:</small><br><br>Just tell the Judge exactly how you feel.  I'm sure they will be as impressed as we all are, and you won't have to serve.<br> </div>Please, video tape this....Please<br> </div>I want a tape of the lighter fluid attempt.  That would truly be the way to get catapulted into the Darwin Hall of Fame.<br><br>The more I read and re-read the OP post - it has to be a troll because no one could be that incredibly stupid.  Could they?<br>Seriously?<br>I am not flaming or making a personal attack - really?  The guy can't be serious.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Van posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/129458" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=129458');">KrK</a>:</small><br><br>Just tell the Judge exactly how you feel.  I'm sure they will be as impressed as we all are, and you won't have to serve.<br> </div>Please, video tape this....Please]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[NY Tel posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/129458" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=129458');">KrK</a>:</small><br><br>Just tell the Judge exactly how you feel.  I'm sure they will be as impressed as we all are, and you won't have to serve.<br><br>* For everybody else who wonders why the USA is in such a mess, and why it seems there's little hope for the future and we the people saving ourselves, just re-read the OP's post.<br><br>Thanks.<br> </div>Amen to that!  :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[KrK posted : Just tell the Judge exactly how you feel.  I'm sure they will be as impressed as we all are, and you won't have to serve.<br><br>* For everybody else who wonders why the USA is in such a mess, and why it seems there's little hope for the future and we the people saving ourselves, just re-read the OP's post.<br><br>Thanks.<br><small>--<br>"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kjgi posted : I never had any interest to serve.  Then I was picked for a federal case that could last over two weeks.  Balco, steroids, precursor to the Bonds trial.  I found the whole process very interesting and would do it again.  I now know more about steroids than most baseball players.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Sweet Witch posted : There's also the fun little "discussion" of how there are so many innocent people in jail that you believe prosecutors just pick someone and fabricate the evidence to point to them :D<br><small>--<br>"While you can teach an old dog new tricks, you simply can't teach him to be a cat."<br><br>"Are you my Mummy?"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[61999674 posted : All this effort to get out of one of your civic duties, I wonder how many that try hard to get out of jury duty/don't want to serve,  bother to vote.<br><small>--<br>It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fcisler posted : I just went through this a week ago...<br><br>I actually got called as one of the 8 (6 and 2 standby). They ask the questions and then came to "Is anyone, or anyone directly related to law enforcement"<br><br>Well why yes...my dad has been a Corrections Officer for 32 years. Then the judge gave me some info and asked:<br><br>"Do you feel this would impact your decision making?"<br><br>"No sir. If the officer picked him up then he MUST be guilty" (blank stare) "But considering that my judgment is very askew from the decision making that this court and legal system would like then I feel that I would not be a good candidate for jury duty". <br><br>The Judge smiled and said "Thank you, have a nice day - you are dismissed"<br><br>I got outta there in 1.5hrs. They didn't even kick the actual Corrections Officer off of the panel of 8 nor the woman who's son was a officer and stepson a detective! If I hadn't been called to be one of the 8 I would have been sitting in the room for a LONG time.<br><br>To be fair, though, I wouldn't have minded to serve. My job pays me full salary indefinitely.  The issue was that it was criminal and the guy was basically running from the cops in a vehicle. How do you mix that up?<br><br> In my mind he was guilty and there was no evidence to say otherwise. It may be wrong but that's how I felt. Considering that wouldn't be a "fair day in court" for the defendant I felt I was doing the right thing by "excusing" myself. I also happened to know exactly what to say. The judge didn't even consult the defense/prosecution.<br><br>The next step was "I know the prosecuting atty." (I did - wouldn't affect my decision though) and "I do consultation for the atty's office" (I do). Either of those would have gotten me out of there.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Coma posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/887047" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=887047');">runnoft</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/153891" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=153891');">Timmn</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/550034" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=550034');">Coma</a>:</small><br><br>To Whom It May Concern:<br><br>I am requesting exemption from jury duty based on the fact that I have organic frontal lobe brain damage as a result of a gun shot wound to the head in 1964. That trumatic injury left me with the resulting personality disorders associated with a pre-frontal lobotomy. These personality disorders include reduced concentration and attention, bad judgement, impaired insight, disinhibition, loss of social graces and sexual indiscretions, among others.<br><br>Documentation of organic frontal lobe brain damage is available on request.<br><br>Sincerely<br> </div>That letter would simply make you the perfect candidate for Jury Duty in Illinois. <br> </div>Jury Duty in Illinois?  It would qualify you as Judge in Illinois.<br> </div>                    <br> . . . or a senator  . . . ;)<br>               <br>              <br><small>--<br><i> . . . seeking professional help . . .  </i></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[runnoft posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/153891" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=153891');">Timmn</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/550034" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=550034');">Coma</a>:</small><br><br>To Whom It May Concern:<br><br>I am requesting exemption from jury duty based on the fact that I have organic frontal lobe brain damage as a result of a gun shot wound to the head in 1964. That trumatic injury left me with the resulting personality disorders associated with a pre-frontal lobotomy. These personality disorders include reduced concentration and attention, bad judgement, impaired insight, disinhibition, loss of social graces and sexual indiscretions, among others.<br><br>Documentation of organic frontal lobe brain damage is available on request.<br><br>Sincerely<br> </div>That letter would simply make you the perfect candidate for Jury Duty in Illinois. <br> </div>Jury Duty in Illinois?  It would qualify you as Judge in Illinois.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Bobcat posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/808224" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=808224');">lostsoul187</a>:</small><br><br>When they got to me I told them this simple line "you know, If you take them out back and shoot them you can save us a lot of time and money,  I mean he was arrested already why waste our time?"  the judge swiftly replied with " Sir one more line like that, and i'll hold you in contempt of the court, and you will be the one sitting in jail!" </div>The logical extension then being that they should take you out back and shoot you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vasta posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/170591" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=170591');">toddbs98</a>:</small><br><br>Your un-American and should be deported to a country where they don't have jury trials. <br> </div>Please, Just because I'd rather do other things? I was joking about TV and video games...If I have to go one day I'll go...Not a big deal but this month was just not a good time]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fartness posted : I saw a lawyer get called when I went. Maybe a tax lawyer or something irrelevant, but yes, lawyers do get called. Maybe not criminal lawyers...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[pog posted : I had to serve once and have been called a number of times.  The strategy for excuses should change as time wears on in the courtroom.  If your name is called for the panel in the beginning, you can probably get sent home for some pretty lame reasons.  If there's only a couple of people left in the pool, they are not going to want to excuse anyone else and run the risk of having to start from scratch.<br><br>Anyway, the place where you want to insert your "reason" is when the judge asks if you can be fair and impartial.  You want to say "no" to this in a believable way.  Early on, you can use the old "cops don't arrest innocent people" routine or its cousin, "all cops are pigs, they make up anything to put people away".  Later on, you'll have to put more effort into it, maybe even referring to how the defendant looks... yeah, play the race card, if you have to.<br><br>If you are smart, you can avoid this by filling out the questionnaire properly... yes, you HAVE known someone close to you being a victim (or perpetrator) of a similar offense... or you DO know one of the parties.  If your bluff is called, fall back on mistaken identify, etc.<br><br>I say this all only partially in jest... I have seen all of this happen for real. LOL!  <br><br>Also, they don't call lawyers, paralegals, police officers, judges, prison guards, court personnel... become one of those (or marry one).... :)<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://gopog.net/">My Site</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[toddbs98 posted : Your un-American and should be deported to a country where they don't have jury trials. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[David posted : I get paid my hourly rate to serve mine. All I have to do is bring in the notice, most times I can even scan it and give it to them as a PDF, if they still need a hard copy I still bring it in. <br><br>Most times they just update the schedule to say "jury duty". <br><br>I got to serve on a coroner's inquest jury. Our corner (larry Nonn I think) was a really nice guy, explained everything on what we would be doing and such. <br><br>I voted for him again cause I felt he did a good job (as least in that instance) and his office is rather professional. Makes me feel better if I happen to bite the bullet in madison county. <br><br>Even the day of the inquest jury I was running late, he held it up for when I got up there (ever see a fat man run?) I ran as best as I could. Jury selection person downstairs said "calm down! you are fine!! Larry came down stairs and I apologized and he said "Oh your fine... you ready?" I was like "yea.. let's get to it!" <br><br>basically I was the "tie breaker" juror on the coroner inquest panel. <br><br>was the best and most interesting 2 days I had done. Screwed up my sleep schedule but I learned all kinds of things about the coroner's office and how important their job is. <br><small>--<br>If you have a topic in the direct forum please reply to it or a post of mine, I get a notification when you do this. <br><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12602989~mode=flat">Koetting Ford, Granite City, illinois... YOU'RE FIRED!!<br></a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fartness posted : If it involves a person of another race, act like it's 1960. That's what a black friend of mine did. He said he doesn't like white people. The defendant was white. It worked.<br><br>Someone said it earlier in this thread but I would just say the cops rarely make mistakes and arrest the wrong person.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Right on the mark, margaf77.<br><br>Amazing (or not?) that the discussion got this far before anyone thought about the responsibilities that come along with the rights we have...<br><br>Republican, Democrat, or other, the least one can do is be a responsible citizen.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[NY Tel posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1157186" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1157186');">quatrix</a>:</small><br><br>This kind of thread makes me proud to be American.  Nice to know that everyone is an expert at cheating and lying.<br> </div>Well I was called twice and was prepared to serve if selected.<br>1st time:  Case involved someone being shot by police.  they asked: "Does anyone here have a relative on the job"?<br>I raised my hand to reply that my Father-In-Law is a Police Lieutenant.  DISQUALIFIED - sent home for 7 years<br><br>2nd time: Woman was walking through a hospital parking lot and stepped in a hole, twisted her foot, leg, back and was suing the parent corporation.<br>They asked: Does anyone have any relationship to this case?"<br>I raised my hand to report (I swear this is true) that I was the CEO of the Hospital when and where the women slipped and fell.  DOUBLE DISQUALIFIED!<br><br>So see - I tried but couldn't get picked.   :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[VZ_FrankN posted : Tell them you have a special skill of being able to tell if someone is guilty just by looking at them.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[hdman posted : Basically, during the voir dire session, have AN opinion.  It does not really matter what that opinion is about or regarding as long as it is germain to the case.  For example, if it is a case about a house that burned down because of a furnace malfunction, then be sure to tell them that you installed your own furnace and have good knowledge about them.<br><br>I guarantee, no lawyer will want you on the jury.  They want the people who have no opinion, no knowledge, etc.  That way, they feel they can direct you on how to decide.<br><br>Trust me, you will be sent away quickly.<br><br>HDMan<br><small>--<br>The proper way to break in a Harley: Grab a fist full of throttle, and ride it like you stole it!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[peterboro posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1157186" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1157186');">quatrix</a>:</small><br><br>This kind of thread makes me proud to be American.  Nice to know that everyone is an expert at cheating and lying. </div>I was thinking the same thing. I don't think the same comments would be posted in Can Chat forum.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vasta posted : Well I was #600 something, 1-469 had to report....what a dodge<br><br>Chances are if I had to go they'd take a look at me and say we don't need you]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I return to sender the envelope.  I don't get another one until a decade.  I'm in MA.  I eventually researched the subject and it turns out summons envelopes get RTS about 30 percent every mailing for various reasons.  And then they do in fact supress your name from receiving more summons for some time until they re-sync their databases.  Turns out their "mailing lists" aren't the cleanest things in the world.  So my RTS's are just a drop in the bucket.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vircotto posted : Yes, jury duty can be an inconvenience, boring, etc.  But the time I've served was fascinating!  The first time I was called, the county required you to be there for the entire first week, then you were on call the 2nd week.  (They have since changed that.)  My group didn't even get to complete the first day 30-minute orientation lecture before we were called in to be part of an extended jury pool for a murder trial.  (For some reason, the defence used its last peremptory challenge on me and I never got to ask them why.)<br><br>I served on 5 juries (covering 6 days), 4 criminal and one civil. It really was an eye-opening experience seeing our justice system at work.  While I was disappointed by the reality of the justice system, still, without people willing to serve on juries, it would be so much worse.  <br><br>FWIW, the main reasons people were dismissed by the judges I saw prior to <i>voir dire </i> was 1) knowing anyone involved in the case (defendants, lawyers, known witnesses, etc.), 2) being in law enforcement or having close relations with people in law enforcement, 3) (for the criminal trials) being a lawyer (not sure why), 4) having previously been a victim of the general type of crime the defendant is charged with, and finally 5) having made up your mind about the case (or not being able to render your verdict based solely on the evidence presented and the law as explained by the judge).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[lostsoul187 posted : I have been called on jury duty 3 times since I turned 18.  First 2 i just went with the flow, hated it drove me nuts, third time a budddy told me some of the things that everyoe else is trying ie " cops are crooks" and the such.  When they got to me I told them this simple line "you know, If you take them out back and shoot them you can save us a lot of time and money,  I mean he was arrested already why waste our time?"  the judge swiftly replied with " Sir one more line like that, and i'll hold you in contempt of the court, and you will be the onw sitting in jail!"  yea doesn't work like that in texas, but hey now my work pays me my regular hourly wages while in court so I am cool with it.   Kinda like a mini vacation<br><small>--<br>up from the ground down from the sky lostsoul will arive</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Timmn posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/550034" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=550034');">Coma</a>:</small><br><br>To Whom It May Concern:<br><br>I am requesting exemption from jury duty based on the fact that I have organic frontal lobe brain damage as a result of a gun shot wound to the head in 1964. That trumatic injury left me with the resulting personality disorders associated with a pre-frontal lobotomy. These personality disorders include reduced concentration and attention, bad judgement, impaired insight, disinhibition, loss of social graces and sexual indiscretions, among others.<br><br>Documentation of organic frontal lobe brain damage is available on request.<br><br>Sincerely<br> </div>That letter would simply make you the perfect candidate for Jury Duty in Illinois. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jdjbuffalo posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/613678" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=613678');">TheWickerMan</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/514998" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=514998');">boogi man</a>:</small><br><br>seriously what's the big deal with jury duty? slight inconvenience at worst. </div>Unless you have a job that doesn't reimburse you for the time you're away.  Most of us can't afford to even miss one paycheck.  The handful of change they give you for your time is an insult.  <br> </div>This is why I think they should have a law requiring that the company fully pay you for the time needed on a jury.   A minimum of 1 week per year.  Most trials take only a few days anyways.<br><br>This would allow hopefully help fix this problem of people not wanting to serve.  <br><br>Like raythompsontn said, for those of you who think this way you better hope the tables aren't turned on you when you need a jury trial.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/120809" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=120809');">scots</a>:</small><br><br>They use a combination of various things in NC, so it's pretty hard to not get into the jury duty pool here.<br> </div>You really think it's pretty hard to not get into the jury duty pool in NC?<br><br>I've been a licensed driver in NC for 20 years, and a registered voter for 19 years.  Never once have I been called for jury duty.<br><br>My wife, is only 5 years behind me, and she's never been called either.  Neither has my brother who is 5 years behind me.  My dad has been registered and licensed for 40 years, and he hasn't been called.  Only my mom has been called to a Grand Jury, and that was about 25 years ago.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John Galt posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/284087" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=284087');">raythompsontn</a>:</small><br><br>For those of you wanting to make excuses for not doing jury duty, all the childish excuses etc. that you think are winners, I hope someday the tables are turned. </div>That's why I support jury nullification...<br><small>--<br>Remember, Tuesday is Soylent Green Day.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TheWickerMan posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/514998" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=514998');">boogi man</a>:</small><br><br>seriously what's the big deal with jury duty? slight inconvenience at worst. </div>Unless you have a job that doesn't reimburse you for the time you're away.  Most of us can't afford to even miss one paycheck.  The handful of change they give you for your time is an insult.  ]]></description>
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