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Atlanta, GA | China? Is the FBI working for China now? No, wait, they don't even go this far over there. | |
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  Grail KnightQui audet adipisciturPremium
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Is the FBI working for China now? No, wait, they don't even go this far over there.
I do not see how saving user data for 2 years could be worse then having no access to information at all as the government blocks what they do not want the citizen to see. YMMV
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 | fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
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Atlanta, GA | Re: China? said by Grail Knight: quote:
Is the FBI working for China now? No, wait, they don't even go this far over there.
I do not see how saving user data for 2 years could be worse then having no access to information at all as the government blocks what they do not want the citizen to see. YMMV Are you kidding? Keeping 2 years of data revealing EVERY website you visit and EVERY email you send/receive, the ability to track your every online move is something you consider benign? How long until the black suits are pounding on your door because you clicked a link on a website last month that they don't like? Right now it is just intimidation, but we all know where it will lead: to outright censorship and a destruction of freedom that goes way beyond what the Great Firewall accomplishes.
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| | Grail KnightQui audet adipisciturPremium
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How long until the black suits are pounding on your door because you clicked a link on a website last month that they don't like? Right now it is just intimidation, but we all know where it will lead: to outright censorship and a destruction of freedom that goes way beyond what the Great Firewall accomplishes.
Seems like you must be kidding or are you truly that paranoid?
I can sit here all day and make up 'what ifs' too but rather ground myself in the reality of the situation.
As China already blocks data vs. the FBI proposing a 2 year retention yet allowing data to flow vs. it being blocked as China does I would rather let them retain my data vs. having none at all.
Do not delude yourself to much the government already knows who and where you are if they want to come and get you.
Have a nice day.
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| | | fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
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Atlanta, GA | Re: China? The frog in a pot of water doesn't pay attention to the rising temperature until it is too late... he's cooked. | |
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1 edit | Re: China? I will stick with the facts of the matter that this is a proposal to save 2 years worth of data vs. China blocking data now.
I would still rather have access to the data.
Let me know when the water starts boiling.
Edit* I do understand what you are getting at but do not live my life based on what ifs. There is far to much else going on in the world then worrying about 2 years of logging by the FBI who has yet to even say who would pay for this (Tax payers, or the ISP-Customers) let along storing the amount of data that will be generated.
There is also certainly to follow lawsuits to try and block this as this type of intrusion brings them like stink on sh_t.
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Atlanta, GA | Re: China? The pot is beginning to boil already.
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100212/ap_···eillance
Little by little they are chipping away at our privacy. Maybe you don't care. Maybe most Germans in 1930s didn't care, either.
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| | | | | | Grail KnightQui audet adipisciturPremium
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Maybe most Germans in 1930s didn't care, either.
Or maybe as history books say the Germans liked what Hitler brought to the table in the 1930s.
As I said before I do not care for conspiracy nonsense and delusional paranoia.
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| | | | | | | fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
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1 edit | Re: China? said by Grail Knight: quote:
Maybe most Germans in 1930s didn't care, either.
Or maybe as history books say the Germans liked what Hitler brought to the table in the 1930s. As I said before I do not care for conspiracy nonsense and delusional paranoia. So then you LIKE being owned? That says a lot about you.
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kudos:6 | Re: China? You really like assuming things don't you?
Sorry I do not subscribe to conspiracies and hysteria.
You do your thing I'll do mine.
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