 RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | reply to amigo_boy
Re: FBI need to find more important things to do said by amigo_boy:said by knightmb:But 24/7 wiretap R' us, yeah, It's not a wiretap is it? They aren't requiring recording and storing voice. It's just requiring ISPs to do what telcos already do for telephony (maintain point-to-point activity records to be used for forensic purposes). The data that the telco is maintaining (and giving LEOs access to) is stuff that the telco must collect for billing purposes (ie: What Long Distance ["out of area/LATA"] calls you have made and [when message units were used] what local calls you have made ).
There is NO need for these types of detailed collection needed for billing purposes with the Internet except for VoIP and Capping of transmission volume (AKA: Metered Billing). With Metered Billing, you only need to collect how much data is transferred NOT tracking here the data is sent to or received from. |
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| said by RARPSL:There is NO need for these types of detailed collection needed for billing purposes with the Internet except for VoIP and Capping of transmission volume (AKA: Metered Billing). With Metered Billing, you only need to collect how much data is transferred NOT tracking here the data is sent to or received from. Obviously the ISP doesn't need the info, or it would be available already. The problem is that this new technology creates a gap in forensic abilities compared to what's already accepted as standard practice (telco call records).
RFID technology could cause "no need" for serial numbers on guns. But, only a tiny fraction of society would say that should be allowed.
We're not talking about what's best for the ISP. But, what's best for society (while retaining the balance of power between the individual and society which has been accepted as normal in recent history).
I agree that it may not be feasible or constitutional to require ISPs to maintain such traditional records. In that case, we should expect the government to do it. If we don't want the government to do it, we should consider how to fund ISPs doing it.
But, just ignoring the loss of forensic capability isn't a solution.
Mark |
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