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Re: No way. said by camaro92:... time has shown again and again that when people are givin more power over something it is abused to a point where nothing good is going to come out of it. You don't know that. You only know of the failures, not every success which may have arisen from the NSA's data-mining process (or warrantless surveillance between 9/11 and 2006).
I wouldn't expect them to announce every lead they got, and how it was handled. (Conveniently finding "immigration problems" and deported the person. Or, denied re-entry when the immigrant left the country on vacation.).
Personally, I'd rather have it above board, controlled like existing telco records. Not the government maintaining a database that is without any oversight.
IMO, it's going to be one of the other.
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| Isn't it fun to have lively conversation without picking on each other in here,it's seems in certain section's in here all there is bitching at each other nothing constructive,but anyways back to topic i totally agree on the win part there is no point to brag because it gives them more info but all i am saying is that i don't want my private conversion with my wife being "analyzed for intelligence " by some snot nosed kid in a NSA or whatever data mining facility getting his jolly's off with his buddy's,way to much power,but anyways how's the weather there i have family up north in Scottsdale love it out there,plus with snow on it's way tomorrow i hate it after x-mas no thank you. | | |
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1 edit | said by camaro92:all i am saying is that i don't want my private conversion with my wife being "analyzed for intelligence " by some snot nosed kid in a NSA or whatever data mining facility getting his jolly's off with his buddy's,way to much power I agree. My concern is that American politics seem to gravitate to two extremes, 1) government can fix any problem (without any concern for unintended consequences), or 2) government can't do anything right (with those people proving their point by seeming to support ineffective legislation they know will fail.).
I believe the vast majority of Americans want a sensible balance between safety and liberty. It just seems like we take the long road to get there.
It's like the 1968 Gun Control Act. After MLK was assassinated with a long gun, Americans wanted better gun control. Congress passed an act to regulate handguns. A few months later, after Robert Kennedy was assassinated with a handgun, Congress amended the act to regulate long guns.
It's just the way we seem to always do things.
said by camaro92:but anyways how's the weather there i have family up north in Scottsdale love it out there,plus with snow on it's way tomorrow i hate it after x-mas no thank you. 67 today. All the windows and doors open. I got a fly in the house because of it. I hate that when it happens. 
Mark | |
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Norwalk, CA | reply to amigo_boy
said by amigo_boy:said by camaro92:... time has shown again and again that when people are givin more power over something it is abused to a point where nothing good is going to come out of it. You don't know that. You only know of the failures, not every success which may have arisen from the NSA's data-mining process (or warrantless surveillance between 9/11 and 2006). I wouldn't expect them to announce every lead they got, and how it was handled. (Conveniently finding "immigration problems" and deported the person. Or, denied re-entry when the immigrant left the country on vacation.). Personally, I'd rather have it above board, controlled like existing telco records. Not the government maintaining a database that is without any oversight. IMO, it's going to be one of the other. Mark let me shoot your "theory" down. I don't know how old you are, but i was a kid when the Israeli masacre occurred in Munich in 1972 , soon after that "they" the muslim "towl heads" that we are not supposed to socially profile because we are so politically correct started hijacking planes , after the 3rd hijack I think it was Israel said our planes will have bullet proof cockpit doors.
they shared this intelligence with us , we did not have to pick it out of air waves in phone calls, but because we are the greedy bastards that we are we decided it was cost prohibitive to do as we did not have that many. history has proved that wrong, but let me add one more piece in this story.
SEVEN years before those planes flew into the towers WE KNEW that was one of the plans they had, they were recovered in the philippines and N O T H I N G was done until they flew into the towers it , not to mention that blind shake tried to blow them down in bewteen. meanwhile Bush while sitting on his ass in a classroom used his brain while sitting on it to zize a opportunity to shred the contitution.
look at what happanned recently with the wacko fron Nigeria his father went to out embassy and warned us!!!!!!! how's that for excellent intelligence recovery and we did nothing, except that we will be like Russia was in the 60's you will soon be showing id to go across state line all in the name of security.
so fuck homeland security and the cia and nsa and fbi.
they should all be fired and put in front of the wall and shot for TREASON, they have failed this country
so go ahead let them collect more and more info, see if they can have any intelligence.
I see a bleak future for this country and makes me cry!!!! my beloved " North " . we the people are guilty of being lazy and not policing our goverment instead of the other way around.
can't wait to see the next elections now that the BUSH supreme court has legalized buying the best government money can buy.
I'm having a lot of fun watching MEG here in Kalifornia spending millions and million already in radio ads and tv , the next republican governator, whose claim to fame is running EBAY a WEB site not really a company in the traditional sense that mekes NO product , just acts like a bookie or drug dealer collecti it's cut and when the customer gets taken , "oh well fuck em " I wish I had the money to take advantage of the new legalized brivery to run that ad
hi I'm MEG vote me, remeber I ran Ebay and we told you to fuck off. can't wait to see how she will implement those plans of hers to bring down welfare , send the braseros back, and bankrupt the CALPERS and Workmans COMP.
oh yes it's a wild world coming stay tuned all you naive happy americans , after all your internet speeds are much higher and there's always facebook.
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