 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | They're wrong. No way the "Average" is faster then the best DSL speed of 6.0 mbits or so.
3.9 sounds MUCH more accurate. |
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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by KrK:No way the "Average" is faster then the best DSL speed of 6.0 mbits or so. 3.9 sounds MUCH more accurate. Could be right since they are using AVERAGE and not MEDIAN which is much more accurate. For example 4 houses; 3 with 6 Mbps DSL one with 20 Mbps cable. AVERAGE speed 9.5 Mbps. Even though 75% of those houses can't even get close to that speed. MEDIAN speed would be 6 Mbps which is more accurate. |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| Yes, but even then, seems unlikely because the vast numbers of DSL lines out there. And most DSL lines don't make it all the way to 6.0 anyway--- and then there's the issue of how many people are actually maxxing out their connections. Very few.
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n2ubp
join:2007-07-13
Middletown, NY | reply to KrK
"Average" does not reflect the real world.
What is the "MEAN" ? |
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Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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USA
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2 edits | said by n2ubp:"Average" does not reflect the real world. What is the "MEAN" ? »cboard.cprogramming.com/brief-hi···ean.html
Average - the numerical result obtained by dividing the sum of two or more quantities by the number of quantities; an arithmetical mean.
Mean - halfway between extremes; in a middle or intermediate position...a number between the smallest and largest values of a set of quantities, obtained by some prescribed method.
Median: »davidmlane.com/hyperstat/A27533.html
The median is the middle of a distribution: half the scores are above the median and half are below the median. The median is less sensitive to extreme scores than the mean and this makes it a better measure than the mean for highly skewed distributions. |
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| You left out the other measure of central tendency: the mode. In statistics, the mode is the value that occurs the most frequently in a data set or a probability distribution. |
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Tairei
join:2009-07-01
Beaverton, OR | Yeah but everybody still thinks of average being the only relevant one. Ask random people on the street what the mode of a given set of numbers is and they'll likely either quote the average or stare at you all confused. |
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join:2003-08-09
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said by jjeffeory:You left out the other measure of central tendency: the mode. In statistics, the mode is the value that occurs the most frequently in a data set or a probability distribution. There's a small hairy German man screaming something about "standard deviations" in my brain but I think that's just a flashback to statistics class in college.... the alcohol makes him go away. |
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX
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They are wrong because they did not account for caps.
Mobile Broadband - 5GB a month - 15 kbps
Dialup - 15GB a month - 50 kbps
Comcast Cable - 250GB a month - 768 kbps
ATT - (no cap) 1.6 TB a month - 6 mbps
If you account for caps the speeds are alot slower.
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| Caps do not affect speed in any way, shape, or form.
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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| The industry has made it clear they are using caps for congestion (smart people know this is a BS comment because peak usage is not prevented with caps, but that is their excuse anyways).
By the industries own claims that their networks can't handle unlimited traffic, the only accurate way to gauge their network speeds is to adjust for caps.
They openly admit their networks can't handle the speeds they are offering and it is unfair to just say if only one person was on the network it can handle 25 mbps when in reality when thousands are on the network it can only handle 250GB a month or 768kbps.
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| Your reasoning is flawed. Specifically, your statement that the only accurate way to gauge their network speeds is to adjust for caps. By this reasoning, a provider that doesn't have caps will NEVER be subject to congestion or slower than advertised throughput, and that simply isn't true. Networks are not designed to allow all users to utilize all of their bandwidth at the same time.
Conversley, there are networks with absurdly low caps. These low caps are often not in place because the network cannot handle the speed; instead it is to enable overage charging to augment the providers bottom line.
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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4 edits | My reasoning is not flawed. As I said the ISPs are flawed when they claim they need caps to reduce congestion.
Based on the own ISPs claims, caps must be used in their speed measurement since they claim their networks can't operate without them.
When ISPs admit that caps are not to reduce network congestion and are really used to limit the internet and their customers from using competiting online video services then caps do not have to be used to adjust their speeds.
Until then a company like Comcast which has a 250GB cap per month is only a 768kbps network.
Also, look at it this way. If I want to use my connection for the entire 30 days and I want to use a total of 250GB then I have to limit my connection to 768kbps.
However on an ATT line I can download 250GB at 6mbps. I can even download more than 250GB at 6 mbps. I could download 1.6 TB during 30 days because they have a true 6 mbps connection.
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