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Re: [SOLVED] Bridging / Disabling routing on the CellPipe 7130 said by Cozmo:so how did you do it? what are the settings on the lucent modem, to pass through? To perform the bridging, the modem settings were the factory defaults, nothing additional was required. Then I used my own router to do the PPPOE authentication and made sure to give it the DNS server addresses. So easy it was almost embarrassing. |
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said by c7130 :
and double ppp? the modem is acting as a ppp server? wtf?
The first time I tried, my Apple router had a PPPOE session AND it's own IP; and the Bell modem also had a PPPOE session going AND a different public IP. This caused my bandwidth to take a hit. By factory resetting the modem, only the router's PPPOE session remained and everything worked fine. |
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said by nuno:I would be interested to know if you have tried any port forwarding/dmz settings on your airport extreme. No, I haven't tried that but I don't see why it would not work; port forwarding and DMZ are both higher-level router functions independent of the method used to establish the IP network. |
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 Glen1These Are The Good Ol' Days.Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
GTA Canada
kudos:6
 ·Bell Fibe
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Today I hooked up the Cellpipe and am trying it out for a few days. I made sure the new modem was in "factory default" settings and I just plugged in my Netgear Gigabit router to one of the ports. I was able to connect shortly after and got a full speed test in "bridge" mode:
edit: Ping test:
My Canada includes Quebec.
Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. |
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nuno
join:2005-06-16
Markham, ON | reply to jhendriks
said by jhendriks:said by nuno:I would be interested to know if you have tried any port forwarding/dmz settings on your airport extreme. No, I haven't tried that but I don't see why it would not work; port forwarding and DMZ are both higher-level router functions independent of the method used to establish the IP network.  I forgot to post back, that everything was working.
One thing I noticed glen, is that the cellpipe when reset to factory defaults, enables wifi(although it is WPA2PSK protected, if I remember correctly). I just disabled it after a reset and then hooked up my router. |
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| So I'm having the same issue, double NAT reported by my airport. I have enabled the DMZ mode on the alcatel device, plugged my airport into the alcatel device. I gets an IP and in double NAT mode it works. My problem is the uPNP doesn't work well with back to my mac. I can't connect to my remote machines while connected the bell service ,works fine if I connect to my rogers service (have them both going at the moment as I transition). So I've also read others having problems with back to my mac and the 7130 uPNP.
I've now tried to do the PPPoE connection from the airport, it comes back and tells me there is no PPPoE response, so I'm assuming it's not being passed through the alcatel device.
Is there anything else I have to do besides what has been listed in this thread? |
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| You mention "Alcatel" device...what modem do you have? If it is a speedstream or a 2wire device please correct your statement. If you require a "bridging" modem you could request a SS4200 from Bell to accomplish that. I can even assist you in placing the SS4200 in full bridge mode. However the Alcatel modem is one of the older modems and it was simply a bridge device so that is why we need more information about your modem. |
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| said by fibevsfiber:You mention "Alcatel" device...what modem do you have? If it is a speedstream or a 2wire device please correct your statement. If you require a "bridging" modem you could request a SS4200 from Bell to accomplish that. I can even assist you in placing the SS4200 in full bridge mode. However the Alcatel modem is one of the older modems and it was simply a bridge device so that is why we need more information about your modem. I just got the Fibe 25 from Bell and they've provided an Alcatel CellPipe 7130. I'm hoping to use the routing of my Airport and avoid the 7130 as it's uPNP isn't working with Back To My Mac.
I've got the Airport WAN port plugged into one of the ports on the 7130, I've enabled DMZ and specified the IP that the airport gets. I've tried to setup the PPPoE connection within the Airport, but it continously tells me there is no PPPoE server response when I do that. |
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Glen1These Are The Good Ol' Days.Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
GTA Canada
kudos:6 Reviews:
·Bell Fibe
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I have the same modem here and my Netgear router is doing the authentication, not the Cellpipe. I went into the device and returned it to "factory default" and it rebooted. I plugged in my Netgear router and it connected to the internet pulling down the Wan IP. When the Cellpipe is in factory default then it is in a semi "bridge" mode. One other user carefully went into his and shut down the wireless but I didn't bother as it is fully protected and the Cellpipe has no connection itself to the internet.
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My Canada includes Quebec.
Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. |
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1 edit | Here is what the airport says. There isn't much to mess up within the airport settings. |
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| Well it's working now, I don't know what I did to manage that, but it's definitely working.
Airport is making the PPPoE connection, and it's just as fast. |
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Glen1These Are The Good Ol' Days.Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
GTA Canada
kudos:6 Reviews:
·Bell Fibe
| When I first tried it, there was a delay of about 3 minutes before the connection got through. I am not sure why but it did connect for me and now I see it worked for you. This is important for people who want to keep their current "Lan" setup and just get a usable modem from Bell. I was disappointed the Cellpipe was not a Gigabit router...that was the only weakness I noticed.
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I wanted to thank everyone on this forum for the answers: I was holding off on upgrading from the old Max10 until the CellPipe could be turned into a vanilla modem.
Here are my before and after speeds from speedtest.net:
Note that I'm using a Linksys WRT54GSv2 running DD-WRT as my gateway. As was stated, I factory-reset the CellPipe, turned off the wireless and let the Linksys do the rest (same PPPoE credentials). |
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I had pretty bad speeds while the cellpipe was connected. Once I had my airport making the PPPoE connection, I did NOT do a factory reset. I simply went in and changed my PPPoE connection to Manual, and then hit the disconnect button.
Before I did that, I was getting terrible speeds, but after I disconnected, it was back to normal speeds. So YMMV when it comes to the requirement of factory resetting, I didn't, and works fine.
Using your laptop to make the PPPoE is probably a good 'diagnostic' tool, you'll be able to tell if you can make the connection and if there are any issues, before trying it on your router (which probably doesn't have the interface to really tell you whats going on when it doesn't work). |
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my upstream increased ! I plugged the WAN port of my Linksys WRT310 router into a LAN port on my factory default set Cellpipe modem.
My downloads had previosly been just over 25MB/s and remained there. My uploads before, however, would range from 6500 to 6700, but now that range from 7000 to 7200.
Wow, faster upload ! |
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Re: [SOLVED] Bridging / Disabling routing on the CellPipe 7130 I disabled the pppoe in the cellpipe and am using a sonicwall for the authentication, which works fine, the sonicwall now has the wan ip and dns directly from bell, but I have lost a tonne of bandwidth on the down only. I went from 24mb down to 17mb. The up is the same (or faster??) and my ping went from about 20mms to 6-8mms for some odd reason. Does anyone have any ideas on how to restore my download speeds using this setup? |
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I am just curious? Why is double NAT so bad? I have an Apple Time Capsule connected to the modem and, when the Time Capsule gave me the warning about the double NAT configuration, I simply selected the ignore this warning option. Everything seems to be working just fine but maybe I a missing something here. Perhaps someone could enlighten me... Thanks. |
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join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:12
 ·TekSavvy DSL
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| said by Michael9009:I am just curious? Why is double NAT so bad? I have an Apple Time Capsule connected to the modem and, when the Time Capsule gave me the warning about the double NAT configuration, I simply selected the ignore this warning option. Everything seems to be working just fine but maybe I a missing something here. Perhaps someone could enlighten me... Thanks. For general web browsing, Double NAT doesn't affect much... But if you want to host any sort of server, have remote access to your computer from work, use file sharing programs properly, etc, you need to forward ports either manually or the programs do it via UPNP, and Double NAT configuration prevents that.
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