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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium join:2001-11-14 Katy, TX Reviews:
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Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by Tzale:250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection. If Comcast set the limit at 100GB/month, I would definitely be bitching... Otherwise, this seems quite fair. Nope. Normal use of the internet could be watching streaming videos/TV which could easily reach 1TB a month especially if you have a multiperson household using the connection. Just think of all the people streaming the Olympics online right now.
Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but a network is not put to the extreme by how much you download per month. It is put to the extreme by your peak speed. If you download 200GB at 25mbps you are hitting the network just as hard as someone downloading 1TB at 25mbps. A cap does not help with capacity of the network, it only prevents you from watching competing online video services.
By your reasoning that a cap limits the problems with the network then comcast only has a 768 kbps connection based on the 250GB a month cap. -- Republicans: less fiscally conservative than that other party. | |  TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium join:2004-01-06 NYC Metro | said by r81984:said by Tzale:250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection. If Comcast set the limit at 100GB/month, I would definitely be bitching... Otherwise, this seems quite fair. Nope. Normal use of the internet could be watching streaming videos/TV which could easily reach 1TB a month especially if you have a multiperson household using the connection. Just think of all the people streaming the Olympics online right now. Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but a network is not put to the extreme by how much you download per month. It is put to the extreme by your peak speed. If you download 200GB at 25mbps you are hitting the network just as hard as someone downloading 1TB at 25mbps. A cap does not help with capacity of the network, it only prevents you from watching competing online video services. By your reasoning that a cap limits the problems with the network then comcast only has a 768 kbps connection based on the 250GB a month cap. The cap doesn't 'eliminate' the problem, but it STOPS people who are using the service to an extreme. The only other option would be throttling.. This would make more sense to curb stress on the network from people downloading / uploading at a high rate for long periods of time.. However, this would punish 'general' usage since I may need to download or upload a 10GB file every now and then too!
As long as Comcast openly advertises the fact that there is a cap, I am OK with it... You have to agree to it when you sign the contract... And for the vast majority of users, 250GB is more than enough. The minority needs to either get off the network or cut back on their high usage.
-Tzale -- They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -:- "I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism."~Ronald Reagan -:- www.freestateproject.org - LIVE LIBERTY | |  r81984Fair and BalancedPremium join:2001-11-14 Katy, TX Reviews:
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1 edit | said by Tzale:said by r81984:said by Tzale:250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection. If Comcast set the limit at 100GB/month, I would definitely be bitching... Otherwise, this seems quite fair. Nope. Normal use of the internet could be watching streaming videos/TV which could easily reach 1TB a month especially if you have a multiperson household using the connection. Just think of all the people streaming the Olympics online right now. Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but a network is not put to the extreme by how much you download per month. It is put to the extreme by your peak speed. If you download 200GB at 25mbps you are hitting the network just as hard as someone downloading 1TB at 25mbps. A cap does not help with capacity of the network, it only prevents you from watching competing online video services. By your reasoning that a cap limits the problems with the network then comcast only has a 768 kbps connection based on the 250GB a month cap. The cap doesn't 'eliminate' the problem, but it STOPS people who are using the service to an extreme. The only other option would be throttling.. This would make more sense to curb stress on the network from people downloading / uploading at a high rate for long periods of time.. However, this would punish 'general' usage since I may need to download or upload a 10GB file every now and then too! As long as Comcast openly advertises the fact that there is a cap, I am OK with it... You have to agree to it when you sign the contract... And for the vast majority of users, 250GB is more than enough. The minority needs to either get off the network or cut back on their high usage. How much you download is not the extreme that burdens the network. How fast you download is the extreme that congests the network.
There is no majority, there is no minority. Everyone uses the internet for different things and thus has different downloading requirements. There is no such thing as predicting what average use will be.
All you can tell is what an individual did in the past, not what they will do in the future. If ISP's truely have congested networks they need to slow down their speeds. Caps are only used to prevent you or me from using online video instead of paying for cable.
I just moved to Houston and I am trying to go without using Cable TV. I watch online streams of CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, Discovery, TLC, History, and a few other channels. Any other show I want to watch I watch on Hulu or download. I also watch OTA tv.
My usage is normal for me. Just like your usage might be normal for you. But there is no way you can compare my or your usage to any other ISP customer. Everyone uses their connection for different things.
For you to say you never go over X GB a month so no one else should is pretty stupid. I bet I can find someone that only use 2GB a month and will think your usage is excessive and not normal.
Also, every time you max out your connection, even for a youtube video you are doing the same harm as someone that downloads 1TB a month and maxes out their connection.-- Republicans: less fiscally conservative than that other party. | |
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