| My Interwebs NO WORK! Who can guess why this hotel's internet is slow. Many of these cables are more than 400 feet long. We have had this customer with 6 providers in the last two years. He does not understand why his network is so slow. The guy keeps screaming at us to come fix it. |
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1 edit | *shudders*
It irks me to no end when people don't put the wire jacket inside of the crimp point of the plug. But more than one inch of exposed conductors?! Hello crosstalk.
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 statestress magnetPremium,Mod
join:2002-02-08
Purgatory
kudos:6 | reply to battleop
What a mess! Is that top switch (in the second picture) really hanging from a single ethernet cable or is something else supporting it? |
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Look closer... The jacket is not in the connector because one wire is feeding two rooms. |
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It's hanging by the cable. We serve several hundred hotels and this kind of stuff is VERY common. |
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 kewlkeedGrouchPremium
join:2005-02-05
Knowlton, QC
kudos:1 | reply to battleop
Oh holy bastard that one reminds me of a few hotels we did out here. Typical bullshit one would see. Worse is it was done by local computer shops and IT people.
One wire feeding two rooms... I can smell an IT guy who thought he could be clever, with a duschbag hotel owner refusing to pay for a proper job... Beautiful.
One thing I discovered with hotels is this shit is done all the time, and more often than not it's because the owners refuse to shell out money. Networking doesn't generate income, it's not a product that can be sold, so it doesn't bring money in the door (At least not in the long run) so most don't like investing in something that doesn't return cash. But as we all know it will cut down on the return clients more than most think 
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TSI Fanboy - "Dontchya wish your 'net was hot like mine! Ohhh Dontchya!"
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| IF the internet is free at the hotel then there is a 90% chance the network will look like this. If there is a free option for maybe 256k and a paid option for faster speed the network will have a 90% chance the network is done right.
I can understand why this gets done. The chains often make unreasonable demands on the hotels so the hotels will to what it takes to get by and nothing more. I have a hotel that's between two cities. Hotel chain will only allow Bonded T1s, DS3 or Metro Ethernet and no other type of connection. The cheapest thing available to them is over $1500/mo 2xT1s. They could get a connection from the Cable Co, DSL, or two different wISPs but chain will not allow it.
In this case the guy is flat out cheap and he suckered our competition into doing this. If I was that low down this could make some good marketing material |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | reply to battleop
Begone foul demon (speeking to the wire mess) |
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| Not all hotels look like that. Check out these. |
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| Those are pretty. Make me all warm and tingly inside. |
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kewlkeedGrouchPremium
join:2005-02-05
Knowlton, QC
kudos:1 | reply to battleop
Little messy, but nothing compared to the evil nastyness above hehehe! |
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said by battleop:Look closer... The jacket is not in the connector because one wire is feeding two rooms. Whoa, I missed that the first time around.
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to battleop
Ugh wiring might be your main issue but in my experience those Netgear switches are horrible in quality. I've seen many crap out. |
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 SplitpairPremium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
kudos:3
1 edit | reply to kewlkeed
said by kewlkeed:Oh holy bastard that one reminds me of a few hotels we did out here. Typical bullshit one would see. Worse is it was done by local computer shops and IT people. A while back I had a little incident where someone mounted one of those wall mounted racks as in the photo posted by cooldude9919 to drywall using plastic Togglers.
To make matters worse whoever built the system didn’t use rack mounted equipment they just installed a couple of shelves and pancake stacked the cable router and switches server etc.
Well I was trying to pull in a fiber and leaned on the rack and that was the straw that broke the camels back pulling all six of the tiny plastic anchors out of the drywall causing the rack to loose its mooring and head six feet down to crash on the floor bringing most of the equipment but not all the cables with it.
Excuse me Sir, I believe your network just went down, hard... Oops.
Wayne
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SplitpairPremium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
kudos:3 | reply to NetAdmin1
said by NetAdmin1:*shudders* It irks me to no end when people don't put the wire jacket inside of the crimp point of the plug. But more than one inch of exposed conductors?! Hello crosstalk. Real butchers, they actually split the cables over two ports.
Wayne
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 joshbDon't sweat the small stuff.Premium
join:2006-03-04
Calgary, AB | said by Splitpair:said by NetAdmin1:*shudders* It irks me to no end when people don't put the wire jacket inside of the crimp point of the plug. But more than one inch of exposed conductors?! Hello crosstalk. Real butchers, they actually split the cables over two ports. Wayne WOW that is bad....Didn't notice the split cables over 2 ports when I first looked..  Think the only fix for that building is a complete re-wiring job... From start to end... Who knows what other Demons are hiding in that wiring job.. ***rolls eyes***
Regards
Joshb
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1 edit | Im going to stick my head in and ask why using one cable for 2 rooms is bad?
If the cable goes from 2 patch panel ports, one using the green/orange and the other using the blue/brown pair, and is split above the two rooms with the green/orange going to room1 and blue/brown going to room 2, there shouldnt be a problem?
I thought the cat5 spec stated that each pair within a cat5 cable must be twisted at different rates of twists per metre which eliminates cross talk between the pairs, or in this case, rooms.
Personally I wouldnt do this as I like to leave the blue/brown pair for a voip phone system with phones powered by ethernet as a future option, but i thought it should be still ok to use 1 cable for 2 rooms. |
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AVonGaussPremium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | A non-professional opinion, but the cable is cheap compared to the time and effort in running and maintaining the drops. Why create confusion or a possible nightmare like in the original post that you will have to deal with for years to come? |
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 CanerisErikCanerisPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
kudos:2 | reply to raytaylor
1. It's insane
2. It's insane
3. It's insane
4. GigE
5. PoE
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CanerisErikCanerisPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
kudos:2 | reply to AVonGauss
said by AVonGauss: Why create confusion or a possible nightmare like in the original post that you will have to deal with for years to come? Because they are planning on making it someone else's problem or milking the client for more $ by inventing faults.
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