chelpt
join:2008-05-24
La Crosse, WI | Had to hit the fan at some point. During these recent Olympics we have been learning many interesting factoids about Canada. Among them, I think is that nearly 90% of their population lives within a 100 miles of the US/CANADA border. With that kind of population density, it would be very likely that your broadband deployment will be very fast. So now that they need to hit up construction in their far out places... is it no wonder?
I tell you what, if any one individual here has the data... why don't you figure out how much it will cost to bury cable for 400 miles to some random town the size of 40 people out in the Permafrost. Then find out how much it will cost to pay people to put the thing together at this new fictional remote.
After that, post it to this web site so that we can really help solve a problem.
My bet is that this may be what causes the government to flinch at helping to fund these things... that the cost would be too high. |
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 andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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| said by chelpt:During these recent Olympics we have been learning many interesting factoids about Canada. Among them, I think is that nearly 90% of their population lives within a 100 miles of the US/CANADA border. With that kind of population density, it would be very likely that your broadband deployment will be very fast. So now that they need to hit up construction in their far out places... is it no wonder? I tell you what, if any one individual here has the data... why don't you figure out how much it will cost to bury cable for 400 miles to some random town the size of 40 people out in the Permafrost. Then find out how much it will cost to pay people to put the thing together at this new fictional remote. After that, post it to this web site so that we can really help solve a problem. My bet is that this may be what causes the government to flinch at helping to fund these things... that the cost would be too high. Maybe we can just start with the people that live in the dense area's first getting 5mb speed before we worry about fibre to outback |
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Im Canadian, and i play xbox with a guy who lives in the great white north (think modern day eskimo), in a remote village of 120 people. My wonderful Candian government saw fit run the village a fibre and pay for it. After all, pentration is the idea right? He now has a 50/50 connection with a 31 ping to ny, ny. He also lives within 400 miles of the arctic circle. Yep, I think the penetration is the dryhump that Thane_Bitter is refering to. |
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 MashikiBalking The Enemy's Plans
join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
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Like andyb  said, getting people in major metro centers with speeds and penetration of greater than 5MB would be a good start. A metro center in Canada is any place with greater than 100,000 people(generally). Where I live has 35k people(that's a city), not a town. Yet plenty parts of this city are still on turn of the century copper. There's parts here where there is 0 penetration, but surprisingly the hamlet(under 150 people) 10mins down the road has at least broadband via cable.
While the vast majority of the population lives within 100mi of the US border, the penetration is poor and continues to do so. Major metro centers like Toronto(and surrounding areas in the mega city) are piss poor. Montreal is mediocre. Calgary & Winnipeg the same. These are all core city centres and penetration while good can have surprisingly poor deployment.
The reality is you don't have much of a clue as to how bad deployment is for those of us living within 100mi of the US border. Oh and the government had a program to help with broadband deployment to the middle of back-asswards-middle-of-nowhere. But the renewal got stalled in Parliament due to a minority government. And before you think we don't do things like this on a regular basis the federal government maintains rail, air, and roadlinks to remote communities because they're considered essential. Provincial governments pick up the slack in telecom, fuel(NG/Oil) and hydro as needed for remote places.
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 ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP
join:2004-03-07
Canada | reply to chelpt
And a large percentage of that poplulation lives in the Great Lakes Basin...i.e. Ont/Quebec. So geography is a red herring. |
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ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP
join:2004-03-07
Canada | reply to chelpt
By the way keep learning! It amazes me how much typical Americans know really so little about Canadians, relative to how much Canadians know about the U.S. and the rest of the world, for that matter.
But catchup is okay! |
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ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP
join:2004-03-07
Canada
1 edit | reply to spendit
You can't use "penetration" and "dry-hump" in the same sentence 
But yes, geography is a red herring. |
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