 GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
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kudos:8 | Japan & Korea You'd think they were racing to the top.
Another thing Japan can do better than America... Broadband.
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| Gee....do ya think that Japan and Korea have a size advantage over the US??? 
With Japan's mountains they can probably cover their entire country with 20 towers. In the US 20 towers won't even cover 1/10th the state of Iowa.
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| said by acoustix:Gee....do ya think that Japan and Korea have a size advantage over the US??? With Japan's mountains they can probably cover their entire country with 20 towers. In the US 20 towers won't even cover 1/10th the state of Iowa. Think about it. Fiber towers?
What towers?
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 DaveDudeNo Fear
join:1999-09-01
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said by Gbcue:You'd think they were racing to the top. Another thing Japan can do better than America... Broadband. Lets see, its 1/18 the size of the US. They also dont have a huge deficit. |
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join:2009-11-23
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It's easy and profitable to deploy to the majority when you are smaller than California with 4X the population and have 10% of that population living in a single city. Pack the US population into California with the vast majority in 3-4 cities and deployment would be cheap and profitable too.
Meanwhile this speedtest data doesn't represent what people can GET, only what they CHOOSE to buy. |
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Did you mean deficit?If you did you better check their GDP |
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Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 | reply to DaveDude
Actually they are better than us at running up debt as well. Their current debt is 150% of GDP. We're at "only" 94% but catching up fast. |
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DaveDudeNo Fear
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| said by Z80A:Actually they are better than us at running up debt as well. Their current debt is 150% of GDP. We're at "only" 94% but catching up fast. So i guess they will have nice broadband, but they are heading into a deep depression as well. I want the saving party, not democrat, or republican. |
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join:2008-01-16
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said by Z80A:It's easy and profitable to deploy to the majority when you are smaller than California with 4X the population and have 10% of that population living in a single city. Pack the US population into California with the vast majority in 3-4 cities and deployment would be cheap and profitable too. of course, if this were true, the top 10 cities in the us (in terms of population) would be wired with insane speeds. i live in a suburb of phoenix (the 5th largest city in the nation), chandler, which makes up part of the "valley of the sun" which is th 12th most populous metroplex in the nation.
d3 hasn't even been rolled out to all parts of the valley yet. our lec is so backwards, less than 25% of their footprint is able to get anything more than 12meg.
lets call it like it is.
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1 edit | They would be wired for insane speeds if the telecoms didn't have to be concerned with wiring anywhere else. But they like everyone else have a budget and deploy using a bigger scope and time frame. And of course if they did do as you suggest and wire the densest population first, everyone here would scream that they're redlining. |
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said by Gbcue:You'd think they were racing to the top. Another thing Japan can do better than America... Broadband.
Actually, it would be almost acceptable to be even 20th. The Russian Federation blows both countries out of the water.
When you see a country like Muldova just missing the top 10, it proves both of our countries have some major problems.
With my location, I would be simply unable to get DSL from my own town (6km to CO, no remotes). My phone is from another town in another region (3.2km), so I can have 3008/512 DSL. I should easily have 5056/800, but what can you expect from 45 year old soggy feeder cables that Bell says is "good enough" (yeah, for what - the scrap pile?).
Indeed, 90% of Canada's population resides within 100 miles (north) of the US border. Over 56% of Canada's population lives in that 730 mile stretch from Windsor, Ontario to Quebec, QC. That should allow for one heck of a fine network, not the joke in poor taste we have.
The duopoly (Bell + Rogers/Cogeco Cable) want no part of competition, and their golfing buddies at the CTRC are doing everything in their power to make certain competition is stifled. They're doing everything in their power to break the back of the independent ISP. Just look at the troubles Wind had to get started up in cell phone competition!!
At least your FCC is giving lip service to improving broadband. Our CTRC is just granting freedom of license to the cablecos and telcos to shaft the population as they want. |
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said by Z80A:They would be wired for insane speeds if the telecoms didn't have to be concerned with wiring anywhere else. But they like everyone else have a budget and deploy using a bigger scope and time frame. And of course if they did do as you suggest and wire the densest population first, everyone here would scream that they're redlining. So you're saying the telecoms have failed to wire up the major cities with fiber because they were "distracted" by your nonsense, imaginary rural build-outs? And that there was too much protest over them redlining cities with plans for citywide buildouts?
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said by DaveDude:said by Z80A:Actually they are better than us at running up debt as well. Their current debt is 150% of GDP. We're at "only" 94% but catching up fast. So i guess they will have nice broadband, but they are heading into a deep depression as well. I want the saving party, not democrat, or republican. So basically your entire belief system as to why Japan has so much FTTH deployment (low debt), was shot down, and you have nothing to respond with other than "Dems and Pubs are evil!"
Look, the government created a regulatory framework that incentivizes ISPs to reinvest their profits back into network buildouts and expansion. It's very effective here. |
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| said by sonicmerlin:said by DaveDude:said by Z80A:Actually they are better than us at running up debt as well. Their current debt is 150% of GDP. We're at "only" 94% but catching up fast. So i guess they will have nice broadband, but they are heading into a deep depression as well. I want the saving party, not democrat, or republican. So basically your entire belief system as to why Japan has so much FTTH deployment (low debt), was shot down, and you have nothing to respond with other than "Dems and Pubs are evil!" Look, the government created a regulatory framework that incentivizes ISPs to reinvest their profits back into network buildouts and expansion. It's very effective here. Maybe if you re-read, you will notice, that i didnt say "Dems and Pubs are evil" People want entitlements, and not to help corporations, look at every article on this board.
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