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FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA

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I see a lot of ignorance...

About trains, amtrak and wifi on amtrak trains.

The premium level Acela Express service is carried by high speed trainsets that typically do not decouple or disconnect from itself, this makes wifi a lot easier to figure out, as the passenger cars are not split up in yards, and issues are more easily fixed. The older "horizon" and "amfleet" cars are aging and may be retired within 15 years no need to put high tech stuff in them when new stuff will replace them in a few years.

As far as speed & pricing, acela is not aimed at the everyday traveler, it is aimed at the airline shuttle route traveler, the speeds vary from 135 to 150, with most of the 150 mph being in rhode island. Other trains are limited to 125 mph, long distance trains operate at 110 due to the typically heavier nature of the consist. Pricing ranges from 59 to 200 dollars, on regional and other trains such as keystone, vermonter, and other trains range from 25 to 79 dollars.

The only reason amtrak fails to make a net profit is because it is still competing with cars and bus service as well as air travel, all heavily subsidized by both the states & the federal government. In fact funding for amtrak is about 1-7% of airport & highway funding any given year. If the money for the needed upgrades and changes were there, you'd see a massive & efficient national rail footprint, not the vague shadow we have today.

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LETS GO METS!


NickD
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join:2000-11-17
Princeton Junction, NJ
Reviews:
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If someone's paying for their own travel, they would not want to splurge for the Acela when they could pay a third of the cost for the regional train, or a tenth of the cost for a bus. Most Acela riders are either very rich or are spending someone else's money, or in the case of this severe winter, stranded with no other option.

Greyhound, Boltbus, and Megabus, and even some of the Chinese buses offer free wi-fi between Boston-NYC-DC.


sweller

join:2009-04-25
Los Alamos, NM
Reviews:
·CenturyLink
reply to FastiBook
said by FastiBook:

... high speed trainsets ...
Ain't no such animal in this country. Not in *my* lifetime.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1
reply to NickD
Acela rarely runs faster than the Regionals because of signaling/track conditions, and saves only 20 mins in the end from NY to DC when comparing an express regional (or former metroliner) with acela (always express). Most of the time savings just comes with the fact that Acela skips many more stations than the regionals. I do prefer Amtrak over the buses since Amtrak holds connecting trains for its non-NEC service. Amtrak has bathrooms with running water. Usually a snack car (no 10 minute mad dash to the convenience store and it's bathroom). Amtrak has electrical outlets everywhere, Greyhound basically no (you might be lucky if you pick the right brand, and you happen to get a new bus). Amtrak seats are a little, or alot more roomy than the bus too. Amtrak is just a much better experience than the bus for a modestly higher price.

Samsonian

join:2007-06-15
reply to sweller
said by sweller:

said by FastiBook:

... high speed trainsets ...
Ain't no such animal in this country. Not in *my* lifetime.
We're working on it in California. We've got a plan, and a good chuck of funding already.

But for us to complete the California HSR project, and for HSR to happen throughout this country, we need a significant, long term funding commitment from the federal government.

A new transportation bill, like proposed by Rep. Oberstar, would be the first real step in that direction.


sweller

join:2009-04-25
Los Alamos, NM
Reviews:
·CenturyLink
said by Samsonian:

said by sweller:

said by FastiBook:

... high speed trainsets ...
Ain't no such animal in this country. Not in *my* lifetime.
... and for HSR to happen throughout this country, ...
More to the point (or in addition to), we need an infrastructure. Something the freight lines, airlines, and trucking industry *DON'T* want. With very littlle exception, Amcrack runs on privately owned freight rails. The condition of which is the ultimate speed limit. The Coast Starlight (Beautiful train!) rarely gets about 75MPH, but is capable of 200+.