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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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Re: availabale, but pricy said by tmc8080:the average residential consumer can't justify an internet bill of more than $100 per month, so these cable companies will be hard pressed to find customers willing to chunk out that much money for docsis 3.0 tiers. trying to say that anything below 50/20 megabits is a docsis 3.0 tier-- is as rediculous as trying to say we will have free energy by the end of this decade (or centrury) for that matter. least we forget that the fiber guys aren't doing us a favor on pring either... but should competition finally rain down on us... whoah... The top speeds aren't for the "average residential consumer" anyway... it's a HUGE misconception on the part of the "average message board poster" who believes that the top of the line everything (technology wise) should be in an affordable range for everyone.
Those who chose to early adopt will always pay more for services.. that's a fact. At some point, the price of DS3 services will fall dramatically, that is, however, when the even faster speeds come out and replace them.
And, you can have tiers less than 50/20 and them still be on DS3 tiers... do you even have any idea what you're talking about? Tiers are not based necessarily on the technology... you can, if you wanted, provisions a 5/1 tier on a DS3 network, if you wanted to. Likewise, you can have a 10/2 tier on DS2. Just becuase the speeds don't match the POTENTIAL of what DS3 can do doesn't mean they're not DS3 speeds, at least in the context you're trying to define.
The companies, if you haven't noticed, don't want a ton of customers on the highest tiers.. why do you think they're priced the way they are? .. it's becuase they know they can't handle that many customers - yet. So, when it's priced at $100 per month for a top of the line offered tier, they know that only those who really need it will buy it. Personally, I know a few people that do subscribe to the fastest available tier - and personally, I think they're crazy.. no one, yet, needs 100mb internet.
Still, my biggest reply to your post is that you somehow equate that since a network has these fast tiers available that they should be rolled out to everyone at a price that the "average consumer" can afford... you're very much wrong in that way of thinking.
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Not to mention, back in 1999/2000, the average price of HSI internet at about an average of 256k per home WAS priced out at about $80 per month, had a $200 installation fee, a $100 modem fee for purchase, and a 1 or 2 year contract - and the service was selling faster than they could install.
Maybe it's all about priorities in one's life. But, personally, I'd be more than happy paying $100 a month for internet if I had a need for that speed... many others should be fine with their 10/12 or 16 meg tiers for the average $42 monthly price. A FAR better deal that a $20 per month dial up account which usually came along side of a second phone line for $25 a month (for one computer at a time, I might add). I find internet at $45 a month a HUGE bargain! | |
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And I'm not speaking as someone that didn't at least try the higher-speed tiers; I was a CHSI *Blast* customer that dropped down (to Performance) last year. To be honest, you know how much difference the loss of speed made in terms of what/how I did?
Exactly none.
If anything, I do *more* seemingly bandwidth-hungry things (especially watching online video, via Fancast and Hulu) than I did before the drop.
So if I don't need the additional bandwidth (and I actually HAD the bandwidth), why keep paying extra for it? | |
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"Standard" HSI rates have always been roughly $39/month. DSL providers used to offer "top" tier DSL at premium prices. SBC had their "Expert Plus" at $159 and Verizon had a 7000/768 plan for some similar unholy amount of money. Around 2002 almost every ISPs stopped their introductory promos, bumping prices to $49, seemingly in unison. Then competition really heated up around the 2003 time frame.
SBC began to aggressively push their price downward in an effort to pick up cable and dial-up subscribers. As those prices went down, they started offering more choices, like the 6mbps Expert Plus tier for $49, that was previously $159. Cable tended to stay firm with their prices, and responded by increasing speeds.
DOCSIS 3 just seems to be bringing us full circle to having truly "premium" broadband tiers available and priced as such.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | said by djrobx:"Standard" HSI rates have always been roughly $39/month. DSL providers used to offer "top" tier DSL at premium prices. Having lived in both Qwest territory AND Pac Bell territory, two areas that were first to introduce DSL, I have to disagree with you.
Qwest was the first carrier to introduce and roll out DSL - Their service was priced out at $79 a month for 256/128. The higher speeds were 512/256 and was $109 per month. Those speeds and prices went into 2002.
PacBell was among the first, and I quoted the rates above.. that was for 384/384. There was a 512/512 tier and it was $129 per month. Those rates dropped to $64 a month and speed increased up to 1.5/384 by 1999. I ordered service in Feb of 1998.
It wasn't until about 2002/2003 that DSL prices started to fall below $50.00 per month... and now they're even cheaper today. | |
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