mike1965Geek4rent join:2002-09-23 Marion, IL
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Economics 101These CEO's live in some sort of a fantasy world, in a day of soaring unemployment, people trying to tighten monthly spending how ever they can. They think people have pockets with unlimited amount of cash.
they want to make more money maybe they should look at the top and cut the pay of idiots who are out of touch with reality.
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ff1324Everybody Goes Home Premium Member join:2002-08-24 On Four Day
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2010-Mar-3 12:37 pm
said by mike1965:These CEO's live in some sort of a fantasy world, in a day of soaring unemployment, people trying to tighten monthly spending how ever they can. They think people have pockets with unlimited amount of cash. they want to make more money maybe they should look at the top and cut the pay of idiots who are out of touch with reality. Food for thought ...and yet you keep paying for the service. How did we get by 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Humans haven't changed. Our priorities haven't changed. Our comforts have changed. 30 years ago, there was a phone bill, a gas bill, and an electric bill. You had the newspaper delivered every day. Today, dump the newspaper and add on home internet, cable tv/satellite tv, cell phone (add that data plan, too)...see how it adds up? And yet, we keep buying it. The CEO's don't live in a fantasy world. They are businessmen in charge of making as much profit as they can for their investors. Do you have a 401k? Mutual fund? Retirement plan? Chances are, you are an investor in one of these companies and it benefits you the investor when you the consumer keep buying their product. Don't blame the company, blame the sheep that keep wanting the product. |
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jus10 join:2009-08-04 Gainesville, VA |
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2010-Mar-3 1:35 pm
I still just have a phone bill, gas bill, and electric bill. My phone is a cell instead of a landline, and my gas/electric are the same. I have an internet bill as well though. I don' pay for TV but I have Netflix.
However I pay more now for my cellphone than my internet and given what I get out of both of them, that is absurd. If AT&T goes metered data at the rates they are currently charging, I'll hang up the iPhone and get a pre-paid el cheapo cell and just do everything over wifi. |
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don1p2 join:2004-06-11 Boston, MA
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2010-Mar-3 2:48 pm
said by jus10: If AT&T goes metered data at the rates they are currently charging, I'll hang up the iPhone and get a pre-paid el cheapo cell and just do everything over wifi. And that's exactly what you should do. That is how a market -based economy works. If you don't like the product being offered at the price-point, you switch to an alternative. If enough people do, AT&T will get the message. Until then, the old saying applies...."charge what the traffic will bear." |
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88615298 (banned) join:2004-07-28 West Tenness
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said by ff1324:said by mike1965:These CEO's live in some sort of a fantasy world, in a day of soaring unemployment, people trying to tighten monthly spending how ever they can. They think people have pockets with unlimited amount of cash. they want to make more money maybe they should look at the top and cut the pay of idiots who are out of touch with reality. Food for thought ...and yet you keep paying for the service. How did we get by 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Humans haven't changed. Our priorities haven't changed. Our comforts have changed. 30 years ago, there was a phone bill, a gas bill, and an electric bill. You had the newspaper delivered every day. Today, dump the newspaper and add on home internet, cable tv/satellite tv, cell phone (add that data plan, too)...see how it adds up? And yet, we keep buying it. The CEO's don't live in a fantasy world. They are businessmen in charge of making as much profit as they can for their investors. Do you have a 401k? Mutual fund? Retirement plan? Chances are, you are an investor in one of these companies and it benefits you the investor when you the consumer keep buying their product. Don't blame the company, blame the sheep that keep wanting the product. do you have a car? You sure do. Did your great great grandpartents? nope. So using your logic you should ditch your car since people use to get by without one. How's that plan sound? THINK before speaking buddy, THINK. |
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said by don1p2:said by jus10: If AT&T goes metered data at the rates they are currently charging, I'll hang up the iPhone and get a pre-paid el cheapo cell and just do everything over wifi. And that's exactly what you should do. That is how a market -based economy works. If you don't like the product being offered at the price-point, you switch to an alternative. If enough people do, AT&T will get the message. Until then, the old saying applies...."charge what the traffic will bear." You're assuming a free market actually exists. It doesn't. free market rules can't apply in on free market. And if you think there is a free market, you're high. |
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said by 88615298:You're assuming a free market actually exists. It doesn't. free market rules can't apply in on free market. And if you think there is a free market, you're high. oh, the market is free alright - free of regulation, free to charge you whatever the hell they want, free to do whatever they want (almost). you mean a competitive market, which only marginally exists. the fact remains if people keep paying when they jack prices up or change plans to achieve the same effect, the carriers will keep jacking up prices until they start losing significant amounts of customers. until that happens or until the government promotes real competition, nothing will change the dynamic. |
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ff1324Everybody Goes Home Premium Member join:2002-08-24 On Four Day |
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said by 88615298:do you have a car? You sure do. Did your great great grandpartents? nope. So using your logic you should ditch your car since people use to get by without one. How's that plan sound? THINK before speaking buddy, THINK. You don't NEED a car. You have two legs, with feet attached, made for getting your body from point A to point B. Additionally, there is public transit. You might tell the roughly six million residents of New York City who don't own cars about this. THINK before using hyperbole make your dissention seem ridiculous, THINK. |
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ArrayListDevOps Premium Member join:2005-03-19 Mullica Hill, NJ |
said by ff1324:You don't NEED a car. You have two legs, with feet attached, made for getting your body from point A to point B. Additionally, there is public transit. You might tell the roughly six million residents of New York City who don't own cars about this. seriously, public trasportation??? have you been to 95% of this country? there is not that much public trasportation in most of the US. |
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said by ff1324:said by 88615298:do you have a car? You sure do. Did your great great grandpartents? nope. So using your logic you should ditch your car since people use to get by without one. How's that plan sound? THINK before speaking buddy, THINK. You don't NEED a car. You have two legs, with feet attached, made for getting your body from point A to point B. Additionally, there is public transit. You might tell the roughly six million residents of New York City who don't own cars about this. THINK before using hyperbole make your dissention seem ridiculous, THINK. The nearest public transit for me is MUCH further than the very places I need to go to.. This arguement is null |
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thenderScreen tycoon Premium Member join:2009-01-01 Brooklyn, NY 1 edit
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said by 88615298:said by ff1324:said by mike1965:These CEO's live in some sort of a fantasy world, in a day of soaring unemployment, people trying to tighten monthly spending how ever they can. They think people have pockets with unlimited amount of cash. they want to make more money maybe they should look at the top and cut the pay of idiots who are out of touch with reality. Food for thought ...and yet you keep paying for the service. How did we get by 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Humans haven't changed. Our priorities haven't changed. Our comforts have changed. 30 years ago, there was a phone bill, a gas bill, and an electric bill. You had the newspaper delivered every day. Today, dump the newspaper and add on home internet, cable tv/satellite tv, cell phone (add that data plan, too)...see how it adds up? And yet, we keep buying it. The CEO's don't live in a fantasy world. They are businessmen in charge of making as much profit as they can for their investors. Do you have a 401k? Mutual fund? Retirement plan? Chances are, you are an investor in one of these companies and it benefits you the investor when you the consumer keep buying their product. Don't blame the company, blame the sheep that keep wanting the product. do you have a car? You sure do. Did your great great grandpartents? nope. So using your logic you should ditch your car since people use to get by without one. How's that plan sound? THINK before speaking buddy, THINK. ff made a good point - that the CEOs are not living in a fantasy world. They are providing services people are willing to pay for. If a large amount of the country is fine giving their 14 year old kid a $120/mo cellphone, they're not in a fantasyland for providing this. Using the word buddy and think in capital letters only reasserts what a douche you are. |
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ff1324Everybody Goes Home Premium Member join:2002-08-24 On Four Day |
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said by ArrayList:said by ff1324:You don't NEED a car. You have two legs, with feet attached, made for getting your body from point A to point B. Additionally, there is public transit. You might tell the roughly six million residents of New York City who don't own cars about this. seriously, public trasportation??? have you been to 95% of this country? there is not that much public trasportation in most of the US. There are the options of walking, riding a bike, or moving closer to employment. Work is a necessity. There is housing close to jobs, but people CHOOSE to live elsewhere. And you can always walk to work. Listen. the point was that cell phones were not a necessity based on what was considered a typical utility debt load twenty years ago, but since then we've added the costs of cell phones and internet. Another poster said since my great great grandparents did not have a car that it must not be necessary. That argument loses strength primarily because of its basis only on hyperbole. That would be similar to my stating my ancient ancestors lived in stone huts so therefore I don't need a furnace in my house. Okay. Nobody is forcing you to live far from work, own a cell phone, or sign on to teh intertubes. |
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ArrayListDevOps Premium Member join:2005-03-19 Mullica Hill, NJ |
i bet that people who manage a pork factory really want to live right next door to it. |
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ff1324Everybody Goes Home Premium Member join:2002-08-24 On Four Day |
ff1324
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2010-Mar-4 6:15 pm
A pork factory? Yeah, those people would be called "farmers."
Just kidding around. You're right, who wants to live next to a slaughterhouse or pork processor. For that matter, who wants to live near a prison, lead smelter, or landfill? Yet people do... |
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ArrayListDevOps Premium Member join:2005-03-19 Mullica Hill, NJ 2 edits |
people live next to places like that because they can't afford to live anywhere else. |
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