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1 edit | reply to Fox McCloud
Re: Not always ISPs fault I realize the oversubscribe model, which is why I noted it, and it serves as good counterpoint to the "50%-80%" of people with speed issues are not the ISPs fault argument. I grant there's likely many cases where it's not the ISP's fault (either the customer's equipment, the end destination, or a possible backbone issue), but that figure is quite high given the fact that we know ISPs are built on the oversubscribe model.
Bandwidth usage is not decreasing. If ISPs don't keep up, or wait until it's too late, customers will (and do) see speed issues.
Of course, we don't have to get into the debate about cost factor. It's pretty obvious that we lack behind other countries in regard to speed and sometimes cost.
said by Fox McCloud:said by Turbocpe:Nice, made up, figure. Any sources to support that claim? I've been a customer for over 10 years and have often seen it be an over utilization issue - you know, since ISPs oversubscribe. in no way did he say it was an official figure, he merely said he "suspected". Also, ALL ISPs oversubscribe, or else it wouldn't be a profitable service; if they had 100% bandwidth for 100% of their customers, the prices you and I would pay would be astronomically higher than we currently pay. | |
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1 edit | said by Turbocpe:I realize the oversubscribe model, which is why I noted it, and it serves as good counterpoint to the "50%-80%" of people with speed issues are not the ISPs fault argument. I grant there's likely many cases where it's not the ISP's fault (either the customer's equipment, the end destination, or a possible backbone issue), but that figure is quite high given the fact that we know ISPs are built on the oversubscribe model. One reason they do this is because every ISP (including mine) would require a (1mbpsx10000users=10GigE) link on their backbone. Do you honestly think most states have a 40GigE or 100GigE fiber going through them? I highly doubt it. Most are lucky to have a OC12 or 24. A few an OC3.
Some people think DSL is the answer.. Wrong.. Any DSL ISP is as guilty as any other ISP when it comes to oversubscribing.
Bandwidth is not *infinite* as most people think. Plus, you can't instantly lay new fiber (do you realize how much a mile of fiber costs?).
Ideally, each state should have a 100GigE (or TerE) Backbone, then interconnect each state via a 100GigE (or TerE) connection. Then bandwidth shouldn't be much of an issue.
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