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Re: Is i7 920/930 a waste of money compared to an i5 750 ?

Wow. Woa. WTF. Gee whiz! Dag! Are they from China like so many counterfeits? I hope someone pays big time for this wherever they came from! If they were really fabbed it would be good to close down the fab and sell off the equipment so it doesn't happen again!

...Or, were they non functioning? This is going to hurt newegg.
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said by signmeuptoo:

Wow. Woa. WTF. Gee whiz! Dag! Are they from China like so many counterfeits? I hope someone pays big time for this wherever they came from! If they were really fabbed it would be good to close down the fab and sell off the equipment so it doesn't happen again!

...Or, were they non functioning? This is going to hurt newegg.
Definitely not functioning, they would be impossible to reproduce. LOL at 'close down the fab' they cost billions of dollars no way some counterfeiter built one. They replicated the appearance only.

Don't see how this hurts newegg so badly, they shipped some 'defective' units that they will replace I'm sure. It would take a 'special' kind of customer to avoid newegg because of a small issue like this that I'm sure they will fix.


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But will they replace the mainboards these things fried too?

I know that they couldn't reproduce a genuine, or anything close to it, but I was wondering if these were test chips that escaped the field. Or, a truck shipment that was hijacked by gangs. I remember when working in San Jose hearing about such things, it actually made me nervous because I worked in the industry and I didn't want to get jumped or something.

I imagine Intel uses armored transport or something now?
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They probably would but damn how dumb would you have to be to put that in a mobo and power it up?

Did you look at the bottom? They only replicated the top the bottom doesn't even have metal pins on it.

Not to mention you'd have a tough time installing that cooling fan... (or you'd be colossally stupid to ignore the foam fan and install the fake cpu with a 3rd part cooler).

I doubt Intel (or any electronics company whose truckload of goods would have similar value) worries that much about security. Those kind of hijackings are harder to get away with these days. Most likely this swap was an inside job.



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said by signmeuptoo:

I know that they couldn't reproduce a genuine, or anything close to it, but I was wondering if these were test chips that escaped the field.
It's nothing like that. The "chip" is simply a piece of cardboard with a nice looking heatspreader on top.

Those who have worked for large hardware retailers or distributors probably aren't surprised. This kind of thing isn't unheard of. Generally, the skimmers will cut simply cut the processor out of the box using an X-Acto knife. Retailers order a few hundred to a thousand processors. There's no way to check until it's too late. Obviously, this swap doesn't occur during production, but somewhere downstream after the processors reach the distributors or are being sent to retailers.


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Oh, I didn't see that, them not having pins. So it wasn't even a real attempt at anything. Not even some rudimentry fab with circuitry to hide how fake. Something that fake should not have taken so long to catch. Newegg must have been asleep at the wheel. Or maybe they didn't believe the first 200 complaints? Man I'd hate to get stuck with something as tight as money is!
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Not even some rudimentry fab with circuitry to hide how fake. Something that fake should not have taken so long to catch. Newegg must have been asleep at the wheel. Or maybe they didn't believe the first 200 complaints? Man I'd hate to get stuck with something as tight as money is!
No point in making any circuitry unless you go all the way since they won't work anyways.

Newegg is a huge operation and the 920 is popular product, they could easily have shipped all 300 before the first one arrived to a customer.


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So they could actually ship 300 or more in a day? Woa! The founders of newegg must be loaded.



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So they could actually ship 300 or more in a day? Woa! The founders of newegg must be loaded.
They have millions of customers nation-wide and only a few major distribution centers.

I saw a video on their operation and how automated and secure it is. The automation might have burned them a bit here, although having a person take a hard enough look at each and every box to spot fakes like this would take an insane amount of resources.


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said by pnjunction:

Don't see how this hurts newegg so badly, they shipped some 'defective' units that they will replace I'm sure. It would take a 'special' kind of customer to avoid newegg because of a small issue like this that I'm sure they will fix.
"Small issue?" Sounds like we snagged a NewEgg fanboi. No, the problem isn't necessarily that NewEgg sold counterfeits, the problem is that NewEgg's mea culpa was in the form of "we mistakenly shipped demo units." Bullshit.
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said by pnjunction:

Don't see how this hurts newegg so badly, they shipped some 'defective' units that they will replace I'm sure. It would take a 'special' kind of customer to avoid newegg because of a small issue like this that I'm sure they will fix.
"Small issue?" Sounds like we snagged a NewEgg fanboi. No, the problem isn't necessarily that NewEgg sold counterfeits, the problem is that NewEgg's mea culpa was in the form of "we mistakenly shipped demo units." Bullshit.
No fanboi here, just a seemingly rare customer that doesn't overreact. Meh so they tried to cover for their supplier. The end result is that everybody is getting their processors.

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