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Camelot One
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Let the piracy blame game begin.....

No one will mention the failing business model, bad management, or a complete lack of interest in giving customers what they want. When Blockbuster implodes, it will be blamed entirely on "piracy".
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said by Camelot One:

No one will mention the failing business model, bad management, or a complete lack of interest in giving customers what they want. When Blockbuster implodes, it will be blamed entirely on "piracy".
You're probably right. Blockbuster, look over here: I don't pirate. I've never illegally downloaded a movie. Through my Netflix subscription, both streaming and through the mail, I watch several movies a week. I haven't been to a Blockbuster in years. Piracy has nothing to do with it.


BF69
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said by Camelot One:

No one will mention the failing business model, bad management, or a complete lack of interest in giving customers what they want. When Blockbuster implodes, it will be blamed entirely on "piracy".
Considering I know MANY people in my small little town that get DVD rips of movies still in theaters, piracy is more of an issue than you think. These are people that used to go to the movies and used to buy DVDs. I suppose all you that don't think it's an issue need to wait until the majority of people are doing it before you take it seriously. Guess what, it's too late then.


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said by BF69:

said by Camelot One:

No one will mention the failing business model, bad management, or a complete lack of interest in giving customers what they want. When Blockbuster implodes, it will be blamed entirely on "piracy".
Considering I know MANY people in my small little town that get DVD rips of movies still in theaters, piracy is more of an issue than you think. These are people that used to go to the movies and used to buy DVDs. I suppose all you that don't think it's an issue need to wait until the majority of people are doing it before you take it seriously. Guess what, it's too late then.
It's an issue; it's just not the sole issue. I know people who pirate too. But the vast majority of the people I know don't. The point of the article is Blockbuster's outdated business model. Netflix offers the same product and are doing very well, despite piracy, while one Blockbuster after another closes. You do the math.


Van
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said by BF69:

Considering I know MANY people in my small little town that get DVD rips of movies still in theaters, piracy is more of an issue than you think.
So, because "many people" in a "small little town" do it, it is an issue?

Well, that is one qualified, in-depth study!


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Netflix, Redbox, and VOD were part of the death sentence. They also decided to get rid of their older customers by depleting their library of all older more obscure movies in favor of Steven Seagal and Wesley Snipe straight to DVD type flicks. Not to mention they'd keep a movie on the new release wall for a year before it moved to a lower price section. Good riddance
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BF69
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said by bionicRod:

said by BF69:

said by Camelot One:

No one will mention the failing business model, bad management, or a complete lack of interest in giving customers what they want. When Blockbuster implodes, it will be blamed entirely on "piracy".
Considering I know MANY people in my small little town that get DVD rips of movies still in theaters, piracy is more of an issue than you think. These are people that used to go to the movies and used to buy DVDs. I suppose all you that don't think it's an issue need to wait until the majority of people are doing it before you take it seriously. Guess what, it's too late then.
It's an issue; it's just not the sole issue. I know people who pirate too. But the vast majority of the people I know don't yet but give it a few more years.
fix it for you.

The point of the article is Blockbuster's outdated business model. Netflix offers the same product and are doing very well, despite piracy, while one Blockbuster after another closes. You do the math.
I'm not disputing that Blockbuster is run by morons. As I said they need to be in those areas that don't have broadband. Much less pirating and no Netflix streaming to lure in customers from that area. Also lack of Redboxes.


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said by BF69:

fix it for you.


Unprovable and pessimistic. Most people I know realize that pirating is stealing and act accordingly. If the majority were going to pirate they would be doing so now. And like I said, piracy is a factor in brick and mortar stores going out of business. It's just not the only or even the main reason when someone can get a month's worth of movies for the cost of two movies at Blockbuster.

said by BF69:

I'm not disputing that Blockbuster is run by morons. As I said they need to be in those areas that don't have broadband. Much less pirating and no Netflix streaming to lure in customers from that area. Also lack of Redboxes.
The reason those places don't have broadband or redboxes is the same reason they don't have Blockbusters: low population density. I can understand why a major chain might hesitate to open a branch where, despite the lack of broadband, the low population might not generate enough rentals in a month to pay the electric bill.


C Q Farley

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Too bad about Blockbuster's business model being stuck in the 20th Century, but I wouldn't blame piracy. I'd imagine renting a video for a few dollars and ripping it would be attractive to pirates, in that the ripped copy would be virus and malware-free and wouldn't consume a conspicuous amount of bandwidth on P2P, usenet, DC or whatever.

Oh, well. Maybe their public library has a good video collection and they're ripping for free.



Camelot One
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said by BF69:

fix it for you.

I'm not disputing that Blockbuster is run by morons. As I said they need to be in those areas that don't have broadband. Much less pirating and no Netflix streaming to lure in customers from that area. Also lack of Redboxes.
So, like most of your anti-P2P arguments, it basically boils down to....they need to have no competition, with customers who have no other alternatives.

Piracy didn't kill Blockbuster, I'd even go so far as to say it had next to nothing to do with it. Customers having a choice did.

Your friends who no longer go to movies probably don't go because the ticket prices are insane, home theaters have improved 100 fold, and most of the movies are just redone crap anyway. How many of those same friends have a netflix subscription? How many more of them would sign up if Netflix, even at 3-4 times their current price, had "In-theater" movies?
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Desdinova
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reply to BF69
"Considering I know MANY people in my small little town that get DVD rips of movies still in theaters, piracy is more of an issue than you think."

Then you're guilty of piracy and just admitted it. If you know for a fact that these folks are breaking the law and have done nothing to stop it, then you're guilty of aiding acts of infringement and are an accessory after the fact. I suggest you immediately turn both yourself and the others in to the Blockbuster Police and maybe they'll go easy on you. I doubt it, though...they're almost as bad as the Phone Cops.



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Piracy is a non issue. Piracy would effect them equally. One thriving while the other dies means the one dying is screwing up.
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