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woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA

1 recommendation

hmmmm....

Just don't buy the fricking phone.........
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openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
Germany
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But that provides one less thing to whine about on the front page.



funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
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said by openbox9:

But that provides one less thing to whine about on the front page.
C'mon. AT&T having the customer-numb balls to put out a locked-down Android HAS TO BE FRONT-PAGE NEWS.
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openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
Germany
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Is this sarcasm Robb? This post seems to contradict your response to sonicmerlin See Profile below. AT&T has the choice to whatever it wishes with Android so long as it abides by the license. Admittedly, I know little about Android and the other Android offerings. Don't other Android devices need to be rooted to have full "open" access? Can this device not be rooted?


NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN
reply to woody7

Many would probably buy thinking that it is open because that is all they know about the Android platform.

AT&T should have a warning that the phone is more akin to a Razr than a smartphone.


itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to funchords

Yet Verizon's nationwide data outage last week was nowhere to be found on BBR.....


mAlfunkti0n

join:2003-12-16
Loveland, OH

It must have been so bad I didn't that my life stopped .. because for a nationwide outage I heard nothing about it, nor noticed any issue on my Droid, and I use data CONSTANTLY. I do that pretty much to just suck up as much as I can from Verizon.

I'm no mouthpiece for VZ, but my service with them has been far better than the Death Star, not to mention my Droid wasn't locked out like this ... nor is my wife's Droid Eris.



funchords
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Yarmouth Port, MA
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reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Is this sarcasm Robb? This post seems to contradict your response to sonicmerlin See Profile below. AT&T has the choice to whatever it wishes with Android so long as it abides by the license.
...and I have the choice to point and laugh. It is newsworthy, but I don't think anyone should force anyone to do anything.
said by openbox9:

Admittedly, I know little about Android and the other Android offerings. Don't other Android devices need to be rooted to have full "open" access? Can this device not be rooted?
No, I can load whatever from whatever. It doesn't have to be approved by anyone.

What I don't have out-of-the-box is root access. And while I can get that quite easily, I can understand why these guys don't want to support users who root and then subsequently have problems due to the escalated privileges. There are no applications that require root (for example, I tether on an unrooted phone).
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Gbcue
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Santa Rosa, CA
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said by itguy05:

Yet Verizon's nationwide data outage last week was nowhere to be found on BBR.....
I submitted it as news but Karl didn't post it.
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openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
reply to funchords

Fair enough...although I don't believe anyone mentioned that this isn't newsworthy.

FWIW, this thread started from the idea that if you don't like the limitations, don't buy the product. No different than many other threads of endless complaining about a limited product/service. Choice is nice.



sitdownandsh

@suddenlink.net
reply to woody7

Yeah, just sit down and shut up! Discussion is dissent! If than fallacy! Ad hominem! Long live our corporate overlords!



Robotics
See You On The Dark Side
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join:2003-10-23
Louisa, VA
reply to itguy05

Yeah interesting huh? I think I was the only one that posted about the incident, and still didn't get but a few responses.



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

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reply to itguy05

said by itguy05:

Yet Verizon's nationwide data outage last week was nowhere to be found on BBR.....
I'm not quite sure what's being inferred here. That we're hard on AT&T and easy on Verizon? That's pretty funny if you've seen how hard we smack Verizon when they make poor decisions. Verizon stories concerning their stubbornness in the face of open wireless evolution also get posted frequently.

The Verizon outage was nowhere to be found because by the time other stories had been written and posted that morning, the outage was resolved.

And, yes, AT&T's first foray into Android being locked down is newsworthy.

Big Dawg 23

join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN

Blackberry outages either on Verizon or others has become way to often. This is one reason I dumped my Tour for a Droid. The only app that I had to Superuser my phone for was Wireless Tether. However, wireless tether is still not working correctly on some Droids and only gets 20K up/down.

In the end many who buy a Android phones will modify them. If not already Rooted it will be soon and result in new ROM's.



Rickez
Goinginsane

join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA
reply to woody7

I am glad this is here as I almost took these phones and updated my contract. I have now decided to explore the market a little bit more.
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