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Re: At lest there drop the $20+ rent down to $16 for HD Dvr but This is why I'm building an HTPC as soon as the new Ceton Cablecard tuner comes out. And I'll have that whole-home DVR experience no one in the cable industry seems to care about! |
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| said by canesfan2001:This is why I'm building an HTPC as soon as the new Ceton Cablecard tuner comes out. And I'll have that whole-home DVR experience no one in the cable industry seems to care about! They'll probably jack the Cablecard rental fee up to match the box like Knology did. |
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| Actually that is exactly why the fee is now regulated to $2 per card, and even though Comcast tries to be shady with M-cards by charging double based upon the premise that the person is getting at least twice the use out of it, it's only $4. Compare that to having two DVRs at $20/mo each and its a big savings. |
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said by canesfan2001:This is why I'm building an HTPC as soon as the new Ceton Cablecard tuner comes out. And I'll have that whole-home DVR experience no one in the cable industry seems to care about! Except Verizon. |
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said by Lark3po:said by canesfan2001:This is why I'm building an HTPC as soon as the new Ceton Cablecard tuner comes out. And I'll have that whole-home DVR experience no one in the cable industry seems to care about! They'll probably jack the Cablecard rental fee up to match the box like Knology did. If they do, complain loudly to the FCC about this anticompetitive behavior. |
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And AT&T.
TV providers, yes. Cable companies, no. |
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said by canesfan2001:Actually that is exactly why the fee is now regulated to $2 per card, and even though Comcast tries to be shady with M-cards by charging double based upon the premise that the person is getting at least twice the use out of it, it's only $4. Compare that to having two DVRs at $20/mo each and its a big savings. I will be doing the same thing. I will be saving $40 a month going this route because I have 2 DVRs on Directv.
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said by Lark3po:said by canesfan2001:This is why I'm building an HTPC as soon as the new Ceton Cablecard tuner comes out. And I'll have that whole-home DVR experience no one in the cable industry seems to care about! They'll probably jack the Cablecard rental fee up to match the box like Knology did. no they will just hit you with cable card HD fees and outlet fees. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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And how much are you factoring in for the cost of the HTPC?
For the record, I have 2 MS Media Centers, and I do enjoy them.. I also have the Comcast DVR as well. But I still consider the $750 I spend on each computer when thinking about any 'monthly savings'... |
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said by Nightfall:said by canesfan2001:Actually that is exactly why the fee is now regulated to $2 per card, and even though Comcast tries to be shady with M-cards by charging double based upon the premise that the person is getting at least twice the use out of it, it's only $4. Compare that to having two DVRs at $20/mo each and its a big savings. I will be doing the same thing. I will be saving $40 a month going this route because I have 2 DVRs on Directv. Direct only makes you pay $5 per box and box 1 is free.
Dvr and HD is a flat fee. Some cable systems have a per card HD fee. |
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said by fiberguy:And how much are you factoring in for the cost of the HTPC? For the record, I have 2 MS Media Centers, and I do enjoy them.. I also have the Comcast DVR as well. But I still consider the $750 I spend on each computer when thinking about any 'monthly savings'... I am thinking of it as less of monthly savings and more of usability. By the time this project is over, I will have dropped about $700 on it between the card, Xbox, and so on. When I am finished though, I will have a 4 tuner system with an extender in another room. I will have more recording space and features.
Heck, when I moved to Directv and got 2 HD DVR boxes, those ran me $400 out of pocket. Even at $20 per HD DVR box on Comcast, for 2 DVR boxes thats $40 a month. In a little over a year the investment will be paid off.
Saving money isn't the reason you go with a system like this though. You go with this system for more features.
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To start all I need to do is add a tuner to my PC. That would be $400 for the Ceton card with 4 tuners. Then I would be reducing my cable bill by as much as $40/mo. I can use the Xbox 360 I already have as an extender to my living room TV.
This would pay for itself in less than a year.
If I were to build a whole NEW PC for this it would add about $400 to the total cost.
If I really went all out I would build a new HTPC and get an HDTV to replace the old CRT in the bedroom for another $500, hook the HTPC to that and leave the Xbox in the living room as an extender. This would total about $1300 but would give me functionality way beyond what i have from Comcast. |
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said by castsucks :said by Nightfall:said by canesfan2001:Actually that is exactly why the fee is now regulated to $2 per card, and even though Comcast tries to be shady with M-cards by charging double based upon the premise that the person is getting at least twice the use out of it, it's only $4. Compare that to having two DVRs at $20/mo each and its a big savings. I will be doing the same thing. I will be saving $40 a month going this route because I have 2 DVRs on Directv. Direct only makes you pay $5 per box and box 1 is free. Dvr and HD is a flat fee. Some cable systems have a per card HD fee. I am not sticking with Directv. I am moving to Comcast because I want to watch Versus for the NHL playoffs. That and I want features like Multiroom viewing that Directv hasn't gotten around to yet. Lastly, I want more recording space without buying more DVRs.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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You're correct.. in this sense, its about the value to you.. and I agree.
Many people are wanting to do this in the hopes to save money tho.. at least that's the way some people portray in their posts. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | reply to canesfan2001
When you said "build an HTPC" its gonna be assumed that you're building the whole thing, not upgrading an existing computer.. but like the other guy said, yea.. you're also doing it for more functionality..
like I said, I have the same thing.. two of them, actually.. one for each floor of the house and it's shared. So I get more functionality as well which I like.
I have the comcast box just for ease on some channels is all. |
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said by fiberguy:You're correct.. in this sense, its about the value to you.. and I agree. Many people are wanting to do this in the hopes to save money tho.. at least that's the way some people portray in their posts. I learned this lesson quite quickly. When I thought about it deeper though, I came to this.....
In 2007 when I bought my new TV, I bought 2 HD receivers. Both of which costed me $200 each for a total of $400. I have been running those ever since. So if you figure the $400 investment + $5 per month per box (because I have a 3rd box running), thats over $700 or so for 3 years of use.
So running this HTPC system with more usability for the same out of pocket investment is ok with me.
You really can't look at a HTPC investment to be a money saver. Its meant to add features.
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said by canesfan2001:And AT&T. TV providers, yes. Cable companies, no. Verizon is a cable company. They are regulated as such, have cable franchises where they operate and they even use QAMs! |
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Sorry, to clarify, my plan is to buy the card, and make sure it works as I hope, if it does, then I will get the rest of the HTPC components. |
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"FiOS vs. the Competition
See why FiOS is the future of HD entertainment and why cable and satellite are soon to be a thing of the past."
Seems Verizon would disagree. |
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San Francisco, CA | reply to canesfan2001
That's what I did about two years ago. I couldn't stand the audio drop-outs from the Comcast DVR, so I just created my own. I also dropped Comcast cable and just pull the "free" QAM stations that are sent as part of my cable internet. I could get them OTA, but cable saved my buying a better antenna. |
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