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thender
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Re: Looking for this in a music player

All close, but no cigar. Linux has such a long way to come with multimedia.

I'll give qmmp a try, thanks. The day I can retire WINE & foobar2000 will be a grand one.
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Out of curiosity, what is Banshee lacking in?



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said by thender:

All close, but no cigar. Linux has such a long way to come with multimedia.

I'll give qmmp a try, thanks. The day I can retire WINE & foobar2000 will be a grand one.
Uh, Amarok.
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said by KodiacZiller:

said by thender:

All close, but no cigar. Linux has such a long way to come with multimedia.

I'll give qmmp a try, thanks. The day I can retire WINE & foobar2000 will be a grand one.
Uh, Amarok.
Yea, Amarok should handle everything just fine.
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said by thender:

Linux has such a long way to come with multimedia.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, just because there is no exact clone of foobar2000 in Linux doesn't make your statement true.

Perhaps you could explain what is lacking from the provided program examples that cause Linux to lack so much in the multimedia arena. It may be possible they aren't actually missing a feature.

Some of your requirements, such as "double clicking it and having it begin playing" are a function of the file manager and not any specific media player.


thender
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Said post was not fit to go through due to quote blocks but posted anyway. double post.



thender
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said by KodiacZiller:

said by thender:

All close, but no cigar. Linux has such a long way to come with multimedia.

I'll give qmmp a try, thanks. The day I can retire WINE & foobar2000 will be a grand one.
Uh, Amarok.
The last time I used amarok it would start every FLAC file 20 seconds in. It was a bug I read a few posts about. It also requires a ridiculous amount of KDE libs, but the FLAC nonsense sealed the deal on me.

said by benyto:

said by thender:

Linux has such a long way to come with multimedia.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, just because there is no exact clone of foobar2000 in Linux doesn't make your statement true.

Perhaps you could explain what is lacking from the provided program examples that cause Linux to lack so much in the multimedia arena. It may be possible they aren't actually missing a feature.

Some of your requirements, such as "double clicking it and having it begin playing" are a function of the file manager and not any specific media player.
Banshee will not play a thing. No audio output. However, it does register playing FLAC and MP3 files. Even if it did output audio as mplayer, mpd, and aqualung did with no configuraiton required, it does not even touch the wavpacks, much less display cuesheets! So it would be useless.

A lot of MPD frontends will not let you drag music in, much less start playing from a double click. You have to hit a button to add it from a library folder. This was my experience with Gimmix and GMPC. If there is a way to drag and drop music from other folders in, they've done a good job of making this unintuitive.

Dragging files in can be done easily with PYMP(and just about every other normal music player), but PYMP lacks many of the other features.

I must be retarded but I cannot find out how to simply drag and drop a file from the file manager into banshee and have it play. It seems to want me to import my media then play it from there. Even after I gave it a folder.

Aqualung comes closest here. I am not crippled by alsa's having -51 being the bottom of the volume control, I have wavpack, APE, and FLAC playback, I can drag files in to play. The only problem being it doesn't seem to acknowledge cuesheets.

A six year old version of foobar2000 in wine still kills every native program.
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said by firephoto:

said by KodiacZiller:

said by thender:

All close, but no cigar. Linux has such a long way to come with multimedia.

I'll give qmmp a try, thanks. The day I can retire WINE & foobar2000 will be a grand one.
Uh, Amarok.
Yea, Amarok should handle everything just fine.
+1

Scriptable, fully featured, nice GUI, supports playlists, and the list goes on. It has a nice equalizer too, which was something I was accustomed to in Winamp. I actually like Amarok better than Winamp. Any player that is codec based like Amarok can play pretty much any audio format thrown at it, provided you downloaded and installed the codecs.
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Is the problem of it starting every FLAC file at the 20 second mark & ruining itself seeking through FLAC files fixed? I'd try it myself but the amount of KDE libs I have to compile to find out is a slight deterrent.
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GILXA1226
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what distro are you using?



thender
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Gentoo.

Don't laugh at me



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reply to thender
In the amarok audio settings, which just open the kde sound settings, pick the phonon backend that works best. If you're using GNOME then you'll have pulseaudio which in turn means you have gstreamer which might cause issues. Amarok works best with the xine backend. If it does work ok for you with gstreamer be aware of the sinks needed to play certain file formats.

I see you just replied with gentoo. I don't have amarok currently installed due to the mysql-5.1 vs. embedded issue that is awaiting a fix from oracle so I can't test the exact setup you need without running amarok with a dedicated mysql server up... which I don't want to do.

Are you on gentoo stable or ~ ?
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Gentoo.

Don't laugh at me
Don't worry about that, Gentoo's pretty much all I use. IIRC I have amarok installed, but I don't have anything in the audio formats you're looking for. When I get a chance I can check the rest.
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said by thender:

I must be retarded but I cannot find out how to simply drag and drop a file from the file manager into banshee and have it play. It seems to want me to import my media then play it from there. Even after I gave it a folder.
I know if you right-click a folder (or audio file) and choose "Open With Banshee" it will not import it to your music library, but will instead add it to the File System Queue. This allows you to play and queue music without importing it. (Make sure you have the "File System Queue" extension enabled.)

Whatever GStreamer codecs you have installed are used by Banshee, so it should be able to support pretty much most audio formats. I am able to play FLAC, OGG, and MP3 without any issues at all.


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said by thender:

Is the problem of it starting every FLAC file at the 20 second mark & ruining itself seeking through FLAC files fixed? I'd try it myself but the amount of KDE libs I have to compile to find out is a slight deterrent.
I really can't say because I've never had that issue. Then again, as others have said, I have always had it configured to use the xine backend. I have always had the KDE libs installed(I like some other KDE apps, even though I don't use the Desktop Environment much anymore), so that part wasn't an issue for me.

said by thender:

Gentoo.

Don't laugh at me
Why would anyone? Not the easiest distro for a beginner to learn from, but very stable, in my experience. I also like the idea that all software updates compile themselves via emerge, provided you aren't trying to run it on a Pentium III.

Edit: If you get the issue, even when using xine, then file a bug report. That is the only way to get the community to work on it. Given variances in hardware and software environments, one bug that may affect one person may not affect another. It may only rear its ugly head in specific circumstances. When you file a report, not only are you hopefully getting your issue fixed, but are also helping the community perfect its software. This is not M$, the open source community actually looks to the users for feedback.
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I setup the external mysql and gave the flac files a spin in amarok. They're working fine.

Amarok 2.2.2.90, KDE 4.4.1+, gstreamer and xine backend and no idea which is getting used, gstreamer is the one being used.

No delays starting a flac, changing tracks with them, seems pretty snappy even.



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